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Old 12-13-2011, 06:20 PM   #81
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anybody have the guarenteed salary numbers for next year? Somehow I think next offseason Haywood will be traded and Marion anested and then maybe we have room for 2 full max guys?
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:21 PM   #82
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Can the Mavs just hurry up and get Dalembert and AK-47 and call it a team already? I'm ready to get this season going!

http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2011/

Dalembert | Wood | Mahimi
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Much like the terms of the new CBA, obtaining Lamar Odom was reasonably foreseeable when the Mavs traded future all-NBA first-teamer Jordan Hamilton. 'Front office fail."

I am one of the biggest fans of this front office and have been for a while that doesn't mean they can't be criticized when they do make that rare mistake, as for Fernandez I am happy he is not with this team anymore.
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If the Mavs amnesty either Marion or Haywood next season and let the player options roll off, they'll have a ridiculous amount of cap space.
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Much like the terms of the new CBA, obtaining Lamar Odom was reasonably foreseeable when the Mavs traded future all-NBA first-teamer Jordan Hamilton. 'Front office fail."

Whoa, whoa, whoa, never said that.

Had an initial WTF moment, but I'm seeing the reasoning. In times past, I just can't see Cuban trying to save 3MM by giving potential decent role players away -- overcrowded roster or not. Times have changed I guess.

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Can the Mavs just hurry up and get Dalembert and AK-47 and call it a team already? I'm ready to get this season going!

http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2011/
Oh yeah, cause I'm sure both guys are just clamoring to take the vet min so that they can fill the 6 minutes and 23 seconds that are currently up for grabs in our rotation.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, never said that.

Had an initial WTF moment, but I'm seeing the reasoning. In times past, I just can't see Cuban trying to save 3MM. Times have changed.
Don't worry, that wasn't you.

And I know what you mean. 3MM seems so inconsequential in his world, but like you said, we're in a different system now.
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We'll see. I keep going back to Jordan Hamilton, though. I never liked the Rudy deal to begin with. I hope you're right, but I don't even see DWill or Howard here next year. DWill said he wants to stay in NJ and you know Howard wants to go where he is.
Did you see the Mavs landing Lamar Odom and Vince Carter this offseason? Things can change quickly in this league. The Mavs are doing their best to not only create a roster that can compete this season, but open up an amazing amount of flexibility going into the future.

What they've accomplished this offseason is pretty darn awesome.
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Oh yeah, cause I'm sure both guys are just clamoring to take the vet min so that they can fill the 6 minutes and 23 seconds that are currently up for grabs in our rotation.
Dalembert isn't coming here but he would start.
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DSteve.... and Joey Prazyiillilizizya?
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It's not my place to tell a guy how to make a living, but DSteve should at least consider a one-year deal here.
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Oh yeah, cause I'm sure both guys are just clamoring to take the vet min so that they can fill the 6 minutes and 23 seconds that are currently up for grabs in our rotation.
Yea, just like VC and West were clamoring to take the vet min. And cmon now, if Dalembert and AK-47 did happen to land w/ the Mavs, you know that they would get significant PT cuz the front court is thin as ef!
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Yea, just like VC and West were clamoring to take the vet min. And cmon now, if Dalembert and AK-47 did happen to land w/ the Mavs, you know that they would get significant PT cuz the front court is thin as ef!
VC didn't take the vet min....

The front court is "thin"? The one with Dirk Nowitzki, Lamar Odom, Shawn Marion, Brendan Haywood, and Brandan Wright? That's "thin"? What does a deep frontcourt look like?
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Yea, just like VC and West were clamoring to take the vet min. And cmon now, if Dalembert and AK-47 did happen to land w/ the Mavs, you know that they would get significant PT cuz the front court is thin as ef!
1) VC took didn't take the vet min. He got the tax-payer MLE.

2) The frontcourt rotation is stacked. And the forward rotation in particular is frickin' spillin' out stacked. Don't get me wrong, I like AK. But unless you're trading Marion Dallas makes no sense as a destination for him.
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Yea, just like VC and West were clamoring to take the vet min. And cmon now, if Dalembert and AK-47 did happen to land w/ the Mavs, you know that they would get significant PT cuz the front court is thin as ef!
Dang. I didn't look at it that way...
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So we traded a first round pick, Rudy Fernandez, and Corey Brewer for a future second round pick?
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A 2016 2nd rounder to be exact.
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And we got under the luxury tax threshold (which holds much steeper penalties under the new CBA) - that was the primary purpose of the trade.

Cap casualties...
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Neither of those two were going to get significant playing time. We are rolling with what we have and saving for next year.
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And we got under the luxury tax threshold (which holds much steeper penalties under the new CBA) - that was the primary purpose of the trade.

Cap casualties...
We're actually not sure about this. If you have to actually be under 70, then the Mavs are still LT. If you have to be under 74, then they might be JUST under it.

By my math, the Mavs are at just over 74Mil for actual payroll, and just over 73Mil for LT calculations.
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