GDT: Memphis Grizzlies @ Dallas Mavericks -- 12/26/2009, 2:00pm CST - Page 6 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

cxb65 · 12-26-2009, 05:31 PM

what happened on Gooden?

Can he play against Denver tomorrow?

AO41 · 12-26-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tcat075

I agree. Followill said JET usually came in first in the wind sprints. IMO, that doesn't mean he's the fastest, just that he's fast and better conditioned then those who are faster.

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EricaLubarsky · 12-26-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

It's a little discomforting that's he's been shooting great the last two games and getting so few touches.

Why on Earth would Dirk having efficient games on few shots make you uncomfortable. He's not going to put up 41 every game to save the team and still be fresh in the playoffs. I say the fewer the shots the better as long as we can win it and even then Dirk can't be taking every shot in every close game.

CadBane · 12-26-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Why on Earth would Dirk having efficient games on few shots make you uncomfortable. He's not going to put up 41 every game to save the team and still be fresh in the playoffs. I say the fewer the shots the better as long as we can win it and even then Dirk can't be taking every shot in every close game.

I could have sworn we went 1-1 in those two games, barely winning today. Maybe you're into mediocre basketball though.

tcat075 · 12-26-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AO41

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JET sprinted up the court and intercepted that pass late in the game. As a result, Followill was talking about JET's quickness, and how he would always be the leader of the pack in wind sprints in practice, and how he thought he was the faster player on the Mav's roster.

tcat075 · 12-26-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Why on Earth would Dirk having efficient games on few shots make you uncomfortable. He's not going to put up 41 every game to save the team and still be fresh in the playoffs. I say the fewer the shots the better as long as we can win it and even then Dirk can't be taking every shot in every close game.

My biggest problem is that he didn't put up many shots, but still played 40 minutes. Sure, you want him fresh, but playing 40 minutes isn't doing that. And if he's going to play 40 minutes, you might as well have him take as many quality looks as you can get him, because they will go down. But no, instead he's getting a ton of minutes while the offense goes through other players. That's not good usage of a 31 year old whose logged thousands of minutes in his career.

EricaLubarsky · 12-26-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

I could have sworn we went 1-1 in those two games, barely winning today. Maybe you're into mediocre basketball though.

Maybe you are right or maybe you are being incredibly patronizing and trying to turn my argument.

a single loss in the regular season means what? If the team can't step up, Dirk taking 35 shots won't help us. The team needs to be better and less reliant on the big guy. Is the team mediocre without him? Right now yes although they did step it up against Cleveland.

Maybe you'd prefer a team that is subpar with Dirk carrying the entire load the entire season only to be tired in the offseason?

EricaLubarsky · 12-26-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tcat075

My biggest problem is that he didn't put up many shots, but still played 40 minutes. Sure, you want him fresh, but playing 40 minutes isn't doing that. And if he's going to play 40 minutes, you might as well have him take as many quality looks as you can get him, because they will go down. But no, instead he's getting a ton of minutes while the offense goes through other players. That's not good usage of a 31 year old whose logged thousands of minutes in his career.

We can't afford to not have him on the floor because of how he makes the team better. If he doesnt play this team truly is mediocre. If he has to post up and drive 5-10 more times that doesnt seem like a lot more wear but over 82 games it is. I'd love him to get fewer minutes but the team just collapses without him. Reducing his offensive load is the next best thing and if he can get 20 points on a handful of posessions then I am thrilled with that.

tcat075 · 12-26-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

We can't afford to not have him on the floor because of how he makes the team better. If he doesnt play this team truly is mediocre. If he has to post up and drive 5-10 more times that doesnt seem like a lot more wear but over 82 games it is. I'd love him to get fewer minutes but the team just collapses without him. Reducing his offensive load is the next best thing and if he can get 20 points on a handful of posessions then I am thrilled with that.

I understand your point, but Carlisle should still make the effort to stop playing Dirk 40 mpg. Even if he can narrow it down to 38 per, that's over a hundred minutes over the season.

EricaLubarsky · 12-26-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tcat075

I understand your point, but Carlisle should still make the effort to stop playing Dirk 40 mpg. Even if he can narrow it down to 38 per, that's over a hundred minutes over the season.

We've all seen how badly Carlisle is criticized on the board when Dirk isnt out there. The opposing team goes on a 12-2 run and everyone is screaming how horrible Carlisle is for not putting out good lineups. People like Cad obviously care so much about winning right now that they would probably have brain hemmorhaging if we lost games because dirk wasnt playing 48mpg and taking 35 shots.

odb 7777 · 12-26-2009, 06:18 PM

40 min is too much for a 31 year old big man.

Anyway, this team can`t win it all. Simply not good enough. I hope Dirk finally realizes this after the playoffs and will opt out to win his well deserved ship. If not, his fault.

kg_veteran · 12-26-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by odb 7777

Anyway, this team can`t win it all. Simply not good enough. I hope Dirk finally realizes this after the playoffs and will opt out to win his well deserved ship. If not, his fault.

Get the heck out of here with this crap.

EricaLubarsky · 12-26-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

Get the heck out of here with this crap.

Can you make it happen? Please? Please?

particleman · 12-26-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Can you make it happen? Please? Please?

Seriously... If your only shtick is to bitch about the same players over and over again and complain that we aren't good enough then we really don't need you around here.

dude1394 · 12-27-2009, 12:55 AM

They couldn't get dirk off the floor tonight, they needed all of the rebounding they could get and they still got outrebounded by 10. Pick another game to gripe about dirks minutes.

LonghornDub · 12-27-2009, 01:54 AM

Glad my GDT mojo panned out.

Dirkadirkastan · 12-27-2009, 02:05 AM

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Glad my GDT mojo panned out.

You do know you're up for the next one, right?

bernardos70 · 12-27-2009, 03:24 AM

Thanks guys, for leaving me to talk to myself. Just because I posted in the General NBA Watching Thread in the Around The NBA section doesn't mean y'all can ignore me!

Rick41 · 12-27-2009, 08:09 AM

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Notes: This was Dampier's seventh double-double, more than he had all last season. ... Memphis fell to 1-14 at American Airlines Center, having won here only in November 2005.

Yeah, I just had to attend the only victory Memphis ever had in Dallas back in 2005.