10-15-2003, 10:13 AM
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Ok, so the post-padding threads are getting out of control. I think keeping 1 will be ok, but others will be locked.
I'm thinking the Word Association should stay as it's been here forever. What one do you want to stay?
I think the good morning, good night threads are the worst. Co-star movie thread ran it's course as did the this and that thread.
DJ already set up the official milestone thread so that will cut those threads out. We'll start working on locking threads that pop up of that nature.
What about threads like whose wit do you enjoy most? Let them run a week then lock them? Or do those topics usually die on their own?
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10-15-2003, 10:19 AM
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the wit threads..stuff like that will last the normal life of a normal thread and go away... They'll only be around a few days to a week IMO.... Same with "the new ones" thread
good morning..goodnight threads..well, i agree with you there. those types of threads will just linger forever.
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10-15-2003, 10:33 AM
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RE: Need An Opinion For The Lounge
i like to costar movie thread... but it's definitely been repeating itself lately...
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10-15-2003, 10:48 AM
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How about combining some of the threads into one thread titled:
"Good morning, Which Co-Star has the Most Wit?"
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10-15-2003, 10:54 AM
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Good morning and good night are a little tiresome. I like this or that.
We need a britney spears or hot chick thread because new threads are started at least once a week to honor her or some other beautiful woman.
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10-15-2003, 11:11 AM
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Good morning and good night threads wouldn't be a great loss. I still wish we had a section for post padding that the post wouldn't count and where they wouldn't clutter up the lounge. I know the private topics section is going away and this won't be possible once it does. Maybe we could just get a lounge2 forum for these types of threads.
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10-15-2003, 11:14 AM
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or, people could go into chat and start up "post padding threads"
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10-15-2003, 11:19 AM
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I see some of the people complaining about post-padding padding in EVERY SINGLE THREAD.
Chat is not a viable alternative. I don't like Lounge2 either. I think some of these threads just natrually become mainstays and some die. I see nothing wrong with having 5 to 12 postpadding threads that linger forever. Maybe a different label for them? Counting of posts is what leads to postpadding.
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10-15-2003, 11:26 AM
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Dallas_esq, it sounds as if the decision has been made. Please help MFF in deciding which post padding thread will remain open and which will be locked. Your assistance is appreciated.
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10-15-2003, 11:35 AM
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What about to lock all post padding threads?
Or none at all?
I mean, it would be tought (or boring for the mod) to judge in a regular basis, which one yes or which one not.
If you want to lock all (or some) is fine for me. Above all cause the offseason is over, we are in the preseason and in 2 weeks in the regular season. We will be more busy -entertained- in the other sections.
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10-15-2003, 11:36 AM
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Thanks MFF.
I know some are probably a bit upset with the closing of some of these threads, but I really believe the Lounge will be a better and more interesting place without them. As far as new posts in a similar vain to this/that, I have no problem with them so long as they don't stay on the first page forever. Perhaps those threads should last for a week or two and then be closed.
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10-15-2003, 11:40 AM
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Keep Word Association, and that's it.
Also, it would be nice if a lot of posters realized that high post counts do not equal "respect" or "stature" on this message board. Jacktruth had a great post on this subject here. Posting Is/Is Not
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10-15-2003, 12:24 PM
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bump...already falling below several post padding threads....
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10-15-2003, 12:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by: kg_veteran
Keep Word Association, and that's it.
Also, it would be nice if a lot of posters realized that high post counts do not equal "respect" or "stature" on this message board. Jacktruth had a great post on this subject here. Posting Is/Is Not
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This should be a mandatory read. I'd gladly give up any reference to the post numbers. They amount to a hill of beans.
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10-15-2003, 12:30 PM
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no joke, I was going to suggest to DJ or the mods a very similar idea. If all the others go,personally i'd keep this or that. imho it requires more wit and creativity than co-stars, and more thought than word association. I, for one like going back and seeing how people respond, and not just inflating my post count.
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10-15-2003, 12:32 PM
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Thank you MFF!
I think the occassional thread dies on its own. Maybe the mods should lock 'em up when they become repetitive. Word Association has certainly been guilty of that too. The movie thread was fun for a while, but has probably run its course. It's a shame that it has gotten this bad. The Lounge was at this time last year a great place to visit.
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10-15-2003, 12:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by: Drbio
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Originally posted by: kg_veteran
Keep Word Association, and that's it.
Also, it would be nice if a lot of posters realized that high post counts do not equal "respect" or "stature" on this message board. Jacktruth had a great post on this subject here. Posting Is/Is Not
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This should be a mandatory read. I'd gladly give up any reference to the post numbers. They amount to a hill of beans.
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As would I give up reference to my posts. High posts definitely doesn't determine the quality of poster you are.
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10-15-2003, 01:16 PM
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Is it possible to have certain threads NOT count towards the post total? That might discourage some from posting in those threads.
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10-15-2003, 02:38 PM
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So now, we are going to be told what we can and cannot post.
I thought the idea of moving the post padding threads to the Private Topics section was a great idea. It does two things, get rid of the clutter in the Lounge and stop the stupid argument people throw out about the post padding.
This board is fun to come to, for all. If some people like to participate in those threads (as I do at times) let them. The private topics section does not get alot of traffic so that is a PERFECT place for them.
And the fact that posts in that section don't count towards your post total will STOP the bitching about post numbers. That is so stupid, in my opinion.
Please, don't kill the personalities on this board. Keep it fun. Fun for all, not just the murphs and others that don't like the "post-padding" threads.
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10-15-2003, 06:24 PM
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How about we keep the Word Asscociation and This or That thread? Two is reasonable and we'll see how it goes for a while. It shouldn't be a problem with the official milestone thread in place.
As for the private lounge forum, I don't think it will be here much longer. I believe DJ may be removing it so it would be pointless to put post-padding threads in there.
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10-15-2003, 06:36 PM
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Agree, MFF.
(Now it was necessary, grbh. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] )
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10-15-2003, 06:37 PM
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I say kill everything but the venerable word association thread...
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10-15-2003, 07:03 PM
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I say kill the word association thread to start a new one. The one that's here is so long that it has to be tying up bandwidth. This and that are fun and should stay around. The good morning and good night could go away.
But I'm on board with U2 on this issue. Why are we so concerned with the number of bad threads? The lounge should be fun and a lot of those threads were fun. I personally don't find much use for the "your favorite music, book, or movie" threads but I don't think they should be banned. I hate it when politics are being argued here because of how poorly most people debate. Things are taken WAAAY too personally and the opinions are too charged to allow a different viewpoint to be voiced.
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10-15-2003, 07:07 PM
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the lougne isn't fun for so many people because of all the garbage in it. some people don't even venture into the lounge because anything worth talking to gets pushed 30 threads down behind all the post padding threads.
but, oh well..that's just my humble opinion
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10-15-2003, 09:18 PM
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I still don't see the problem. There are 20 threads on the front page of the lounge. If 5 or 6 are padding threads, with the 3 stuck threads up top, and 3 to 4 congratulatory threads, that still leaves 7 to 9 threads for those wonderful topics like "what's your favorite cat movie" and the like.
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10-15-2003, 09:31 PM
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Maybe we can make a sticky at top and have one consolidated Movie thread. I mean we have new movies opening faster than posters making milestones. Instead of just opening a new thread for each new movie, we could all just post in one.
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10-15-2003, 09:38 PM
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This is going to be filled of stickies, at this pace.
Maybe another section with specific threads.
A thread for movies
A thread for post padding-chat
A thread for birthdays
A thread for status changes
A thread for jokes
A thread for quotes
A thread for Iraq
A thread for Republicans vs. Democrats
A thread for hot pix
Etetetetecetera.
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10-15-2003, 09:39 PM
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scrolling down, it really doesn't look like threads for upcoming movies is much of an issue IMO. If you take out the duplicate thread for kill bill, how many threads for upcoming movies are there in the last 100 threads? 3? maybe 4?
Not exactly alot
but personally..it's to the pont to where i don't really care anymore..
whatever decisions are made, so be it
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10-15-2003, 10:39 PM
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Let's not make such an issue out of this. The board is supposed to be fun and the decisions we make will not please everyone. There is always going to be someone who thinks it's still too cluttered and those that think we're restricting what folks can post or not post.
We have one thread that is a sticky dedicated for milestones. That's reasonable. If it gets too big, we'll retire it, and create a new one.
We have two post-padding threads. The word association that has been here forever and a pretty decent game of this or that. No need to make them sticky. They're usually near the top and maybe they'll die on their own.
Threads such as whose wit or threads dedicated to a movie will die on their own eventually.
I think that's cleaned up the bulk of the problem. That's 3 threads that could be considered post-padding topics. The lounge was designed to be for anything goes (nothing X-rated) for the most part. We've just condensed a couple of those topics so that shouldn't offend a whole lot of people.
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10-15-2003, 10:57 PM
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I think that the changes have pleased two people for sure. DJ, because I think he instigated the changes (and it is his board, so he can make whatever changes he wants) and one other that I will not say because she/he PM'ed me that he/she was happy.
I, for one am not.
You asked for my opinion and so I gave it.
Heck, does that mean any threads deemed as "post padding" by the powers that be will be locked in the future? The only "post padding" threads that I posted in are now locked (say something about the poster and the movie thread). If I opened another thread similar to those would they be locked?
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10-15-2003, 11:07 PM
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What topic are you thinking about?
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10-15-2003, 11:18 PM
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Why is private topics going to be closed?
If it was because it was never being used than we could just move all of the post padding threads in there since everyone thinks that people are just trying to inflate post totals by using them. I for one like these topics not for the reason of having a high post total but for being involved in our online community. I have met many people through posting in these threads and I enjoy having a change of pace when things are going slow.
But if DJ is closing private topics for another reason I can understand.
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10-15-2003, 11:19 PM
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Well, to be honest, I personally don't like the post-padding threads. But the fact that others do and come here to participate is somewhat comforting to me.
I guess what I meant to say was you said that you were keeping two of the threads, one the game this or that.... If I wanted to start another game thread in the future that was not a this or that or word association thread would it be locked?
Like the movie thread, I thought that one was really fun at times that this board was slow.
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10-15-2003, 11:20 PM
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There's no need to delete the old word assoc thread since it has a negligible impact on the site's bandwidth. Just my 0.02. If you guys want to start a new one, that's fine with me too.
As for the post-padding, since I'm not able to check in as frequently as most, they don't bother me as much. However, what does bother me is the fact that it has resulted in so many complaints from members (many with legitimate reasons). So something obviously has to be done since this is a concern among so many members. Locking up old and redundant threads is a good start but I do think some designated threads need to remain, since people will always find a way to post-pad anyway. Might as well give them a place to do it without disrupting the flow of other threads.
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10-15-2003, 11:26 PM
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That is the problem with feedback.... You only get the negative.
And when that is all you hear, I guess your opinion can be swayed that way.
I guess the bad goes on us who don't voice our support of this board to you dj in a positive manner.
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10-15-2003, 11:30 PM
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I don't think we'll be that strict. A new game might even be fun. We're just asking to be reasonable when it comes to post-padding threads.
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10-15-2003, 11:37 PM
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I think the compromise here is a good one, but I'm with u2. I'm a little wary of the precedent being established here. I for one would still participate if these threads were in the private topics section. It's a good way to get to know others, and to pass the time when there's nothing going on elsewhere on the board. I don't think locking them in and of itself will promote other discussions in the lounge.
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10-16-2003, 12:12 AM
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I don't know how long the private topics section is going to stay open but I started a couple post padding threads in there.
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10-16-2003, 12:35 AM
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The private area forum will eventually be gone for good.
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10-16-2003, 08:13 PM
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DJ, for those of us who have been happy enough with the status quo, I apologize that we didn't offer positive feedback to somewhat counter the thought police. Do what you guys think is necessary. The last thing I want to be another complaining voice that you have to face here.
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