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Ooolala trade time.
Post your Dampier trades here.
Dallas Trade Breakdown Outgoing Devin Harris 6-3 PG from Wisconsin 5.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.2 apg in 15.4 minutes Jerry Stackhouse 6-6 SG from North Carolina 14.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.3 apg in 28.9 minutes Erick Dampier 6-11 C from Mississippi State 9.2 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes Incoming J.R. Smith 6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep 10.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 24.5 minutes Jamaal Magloire 6-11 C from Kentucky 11.7 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.3 apg in 30.6 minutes Andris Biedrins 6-11 C from Latvia 3.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 12.8 minutes Aaron Williams 6-9 PF from Xavier 2.0 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.9 minutes Lamond Murray 6-7 SF from California 6.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.8 apg in 14.8 minutes Change in team outlook: +3.8 ppg, +5.9 rpg, and -0.7 apg. New Orleans Trade Breakdown Outgoing J.R. Smith 6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep 10.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 24.5 minutes Jamaal Magloire 6-11 C from Kentucky 11.7 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.3 apg in 30.6 minutes Incoming Mike Dunleavy 6-9 SF from Duke 13.4 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.5 minutes Loren Woods 7-2 C from Arizona 3.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 15.8 minutes Morris Peterson 6-7 SG from Michigan State 12.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.1 apg in 30.6 minutes Change in team outlook: +7.9 ppg, +3.7 rpg, and +1.9 apg. Golden State Trade Breakdown Outgoing Andris Biedrins 6-11 C from Latvia 3.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 12.8 minutes Mike Dunleavy 6-9 SF from Duke 13.4 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.5 minutes Derek Fisher 6-1 PG from Arkansas-Little Rock 11.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.1 apg in 30.0 minutes Incoming Devin Harris 6-3 PG from Wisconsin 5.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.2 apg in 15.4 minutes Jerry Stackhouse 6-6 SG from North Carolina 14.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.3 apg in 28.9 minutes Change in team outlook: -8.2 ppg, -7.8 rpg, and -2.6 apg. Toronto Trade Breakdown Outgoing Loren Woods 7-2 C from Arizona 3.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 15.8 minutes Aaron Williams 6-9 PF from Xavier 2.0 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.9 minutes Morris Peterson 6-7 SG from Michigan State 12.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.1 apg in 30.6 minutes Lamond Murray 6-7 SF from California 6.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.8 apg in 14.8 minutes Incoming Erick Dampier 6-11 C from Mississippi State 9.2 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes Derek Fisher 6-1 PG from Arkansas-Little Rock 11.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.1 apg in 30.0 minutes Change in team outlook: -3.5 ppg, -1.8 rpg, and +1.4 apg Dallas has to be the facilitor in this one. Toronto is dyying for a star center and they want Magloire to play for them. However, if the Mavs start the trade, they can give more to the Hornets than Toronto can. Why would Toronto do it? To get a Pg to replace Alston and for a big center. New orleans does it for mopete, dunleavy, and woods. They might not give Magloire, but I'd be willing to take PJ. Brown. GS does it to reduce payroll in Fisher and get a better SF in Stackhouse. |
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RE:Ooolala trade time.
I don't like this at all. First off, we lose two point guards with HUGE upside (I'm confident 'Quis can play better than Howard did this year once he fits into the system) for Derek Fisher who's about 300 years old. I don't like trading youth for age ESPECIALLY 2 for 1. With age comes experience, yes, but it also tears your body up and makes you less athletic. Look at Gary Payton. Great player, but so much was lost with age. We gain 3 more SGs and 2 more SFs creating another logjam. The SG jam won't be that bad considering we lose 2 in the process of getting 3 (net gain of +1) but I'd say our two that we're losing is more valuable to the system than the three we're gaining. In addition, I highly HIGHLY doubt one team, let alone 3 teams would allow us to gain +19.4 ppg, +10.0 rpg, and +5.4 apg.
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RE: Ooolala trade time.
why would New Orleans do that? (among others??)
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RE:Ooolala trade time.
Totally another IResistable trade:
Dallas Trade Breakdown Outgoing Erick Dampier 6-11 C from Mississippi State 9.2 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes Jerry Stackhouse 6-6 SG from North Carolina 14.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.3 apg in 28.9 minutes Devin Harris 6-3 PG from Wisconsin 5.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.2 apg in 15.4 minutes Incoming Andris Biedrins 6-11 C from Latvia 3.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 12.8 minutes Derek Fisher 6-1 PG from Arkansas-Little Rock 11.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.1 apg in 30.0 minutes PJ Brown 6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech 10.8 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 2.2 apg in 34.4 minutes J.R. Smith 6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep 10.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 24.5 minutes Aaron Williams 6-9 PF from Xavier 2.0 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.9 minutes Change in team outlook: +8.7 ppg, +6.4 rpg, and +3.5 apg. Golden State Trade Breakdown Outgoing Zarko Cabarkapa 6-11 SF from Serbia-Montenegro 6.2 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.7 apg in 12.5 minutes Andris Biedrins 6-11 C from Latvia 3.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 12.8 minutes Mike Dunleavy 6-9 SF from Duke 13.4 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.5 minutes Derek Fisher 6-1 PG from Arkansas-Little Rock 11.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.1 apg in 30.0 minutes Incoming Jerry Stackhouse 6-6 SG from North Carolina 14.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.3 apg in 28.9 minutes Devin Harris 6-3 PG from Wisconsin 5.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.2 apg in 15.4 minutes Rafael Araujo 6-11 C from Brigham Young 3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 12.6 minutes Change in team outlook: -11.1 ppg, -7.4 rpg, and -3.0 apg. New Orleans Trade Breakdown Outgoing PJ Brown 6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech 10.8 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 2.2 apg in 34.4 minutes J.R. Smith 6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep 10.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 24.5 minutes Incoming Zarko Cabarkapa 6-11 SF from Serbia-Montenegro 6.2 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.7 apg in 12.5 minutes Mike Dunleavy 6-9 SF from Duke 13.4 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.5 minutes Eric Williams 6-8 SF from Providence 12.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.2 minutes Change in team outlook: +11.1 ppg, +1.7 rpg, and +1.2 apg. Toronto Trade Breakdown Outgoing Eric Williams 6-8 SF from Providence 12.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.2 minutes Aaron Williams 6-9 PF from Xavier 2.0 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.9 minutes Rafael Araujo 6-11 C from Brigham Young 3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 12.6 minutes Incoming Erick Dampier 6-11 C from Mississippi State 9.2 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes Change in team outlook: -8.7 ppg, -0.7 rpg, and -1.7 apg. Golden State does it to save money with Fisher, although they give up Cabarkapa and Biedrins they still have a strong frontcourt with Foyle and Murphy. Also, Stackhouse can be the SF they are looking for and Devin Harris still has room to grow. Toronto Does it to get Dampier. He and Bosh would need time to meld so they probably won't mind Dampier's contract. New Orleans does it because its Gooood! Dallas does it to get Biedrins, Brown, JR Smith and to get horrible Dampy awaaay! JR Smith has quit a bit of Potential and so does Biendrins. 5. Dirk, Biedrins 4. Brown, <Josh Powell> 3. Howard 2. Jr. Smith 1. Terry, Fisher Dallas might consider signing Chris Duhon, Since Terry's contract will expire soon. All we need is more defensive minded PG and SG, then Dirk will probably be fine at Center. |
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RE:Ooolala trade time.
Oh dude, you'd be the worst GM ever...
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RE: Ooolala trade time.
I think you have lost it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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07-13-2005, 10:59 AM
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RE: Ooolala trade time.
Whatever man.
2nd trade after the 2nd. Dallas Trade Breakdown Outgoing Jason Terry 6-2 PG from Arizona 12.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 5.4 apg in 30.0 minutes Incoming Al Harrington 6-9 SF from St. Patrick's HS (NJ) 17.6 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 3.1 apg in 38.6 minutes Change in team outlook: +5.2 ppg, +4.6 rpg, and -2.3 apg. Atlanta Trade Breakdown Outgoing Al Harrington 6-9 SF from St. Patrick's HS (NJ) 17.6 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 3.1 apg in 38.6 minutes Incoming Jason Terry 6-2 PG from Arizona 12.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 5.4 apg in 30.0 minutes Change in team outlook: -5.2 ppg, -4.6 rpg, and +2.3 apg. 1. Chris Duhon, Derick Fisher 2. JR. Smith, Josh Howard 3. Al Harrington, Marquis Daniels 4. Dirk, KVH 5. TJ. Brown, Andris Biedrins, DJBenga, Pavvy |
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RE: Ooolala trade time.
Dude, give it up.
That is an extremely inexperienced team.
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RE:Ooolala trade time.
Let me see if I understand you correctly:
1. The Mavericks are going to signficantly change the makeup of the team (yet again) to make room for Al Harrington, JR Smith and Chris Duhon. 2. JR Smith is going to start over Josh Howard, because Howard's progression last season means nothing in comparison to the amazing production of Smith in the Hornets system. 3. The Mavs want to help allieviate the logjam in the Hawks organization by giving them back Jason Terry for Al Harrington, thereby reducing our options at point to Derek Fisher and the hope that we can sign Chris Duhon. Essentially you want to trade away almost all of the work the Mavericks made last offseason (finally getting a big man of some substance in Dampier, acquiring a young point guard in Devin Harris, gaining veteran guards who can immediately impact the team in Stack and JET) so we can backpedal into Harrington, Duhon and JR Smith. Why don't we blow up the whole team, trade Dirk for almost anyone on the Clippers roster, and start debating who we want to take with our pick in the top 5 next season? Isn't that what you're really looking for? I don't post a lot, but have been a long time lurker and it took a lot to get me to finally post, but your haphazard attempt to "play" GM puts you with the likes of Isiah Thomas. I seriously doubt Mark Cuban would want to tank a season away like you're suggesting. |
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1. Yes, but it's not like they are going to resign Stackhouse and Terry when their contracts expire. So why not get some talented young guns?
2. No, I actually goofed on that one. Josh starts, Jr Smith watches. 3. Not actually, we still have Marquis and I believe Chris Duhon can be had because the bulls are in a difficult position. Chris Duhon is a great PG who can create plays for his teamates. I like him more than Terry playing the point. Futhermore we get two better centers. Yes two better centers. PJ Brown and Andris Biedrins. Have you seen Andris Biedrins? He is a terrific shot blocker and rebounder and is more agile than Damp. |
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1. The Mavs have talented young guns in Harris (who you have traded), Howard, and Daniels (who will either sit behind JR Smith or make trading for JR Smith pointless). And as for the concern that we won't resign Stackhouse and Terry, they're at least under contract for now, so why exactly are you knee jerk trading them? If anyone needs to go because the Mavs won't resign them, it's Van Horn. His expiring contract makes him much more of a tradeable asset now than he will ever be. (Edit: I didn't realize that Terry is in the last year of his contract, per realgm.com, but Van Horn is still much more expendable than Terry.)
2. If you don't believe Terry is a good point guard, then why trade the true point guard on the team to make a small hole larger? We would then have to spend at least part of the MLE to acquire Duhon, which takes away from the Mavs' ability to acquire a second big man of size, because frankly your center rotation of PJ Brown and Biedrins will scare absolutely no one. That would automatically become (once again) the weakest portion of the team. PJ Brown is a nice backup player and would be a good fit here, but you are giving up way too much to get him. And I haven't seen Biedrins play, but from the reports I've read, he can't even get a fair comparision to Darko Milicic. I can't understand why you dislike Damp so much, but to be frank, this assumption that PJ Brown and Biedrins are better than Dampier is absolutely crazy. Another thing I can't comprehend is why any proposed trade with the Hornets does not include Jamaal Magloire, who is a much better player than Brown and would be a required part of any deal for Stack and Devin, let alone Damp. The numbers don't necessarily show how vital of an asset Damp was to the team last year, but put him on the Hornets, he easily goes for a double double. I'm more than happy to see changes made to the roster, in fact I think some minor deals need to happen, ie. figuring out what to do with Fin, signing an athletic 4/5 with at least some of the MLE, seeing what comes available after the luxury tax cuts are made, or even trading Van Horn, but to take three key parts of last season (Damp, JET, and Stack) away, along with a major portion of our future, to turn into the Dallas Hawks/Hornets/Bulls/Clippers/insert perennial lottery team here/ with Dirk, just doesn't make any sense. |
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This trade is the best trade I've seen on this board yet. It sets the mavs up finely for the next 2-3 years. Dallas improves dramatically defensively. 1,2,3,5 very good defenders. If the mavs don't do this trade they're crazy!!! I like Fisher too because he brings us experience and Harrington is a good post-up player which should take some heat of dirk so he can go back shooting again. Fantastic trade!!! |
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Guys, the dallas mavericks are a REAL team in REAL life. This is not fantasy nba. I am just reminding you people.
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07-14-2005, 02:34 PM
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RE: Trade Dampier Blog
Thankyou for your support. I modified the thread btw.
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RE:Trade Dampier Blog
Damp is an 8 point 8 rebound 2 blocks a night center. Aside from Shaq, Yao and Ben Wallace aside from those three their really isn't a better fit than Damp. Eddy Curry might have potential but he doesn't rebound very well. Miller is a good offensive center, but he let Jerome James look like wilt when he really is average.
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RE: Trade Dampier Blog
What a stupid thread.
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No, its an awesome thread. Thanks.
This trade is along the same lines, except more incentive for GS. I'll throw in a first for GS too. Dallas Trade Breakdown Outgoing Erick Dampier 6-11 C from Mississippi State 9.2 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes Jerry Stackhouse 6-6 SG from North Carolina 14.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.3 apg in 28.9 minutes Devin Harris 6-3 PG from Wisconsin 5.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.2 apg in 15.4 minutes Incoming PJ Brown 6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech 10.8 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 2.2 apg in 34.4 minutes J.R. Smith 6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep 10.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 24.5 minutes Lamond Murray 6-7 SF from California 6.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.8 apg in 14.8 minutes Aaron Williams 6-9 PF from Xavier 2.0 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.9 minutes Andris Biedrins 6-11 C from Latvia 3.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 12.8 minutes Change in team outlook: +2.9 ppg, +6.0 rpg, and +0.2 apg. New Orleans Trade Breakdown Outgoing PJ Brown 6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech 10.8 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 2.2 apg in 34.4 minutes J.R. Smith 6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep 10.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 24.5 minutes Incoming Morris Peterson 6-7 SG from Michigan State 12.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.1 apg in 30.6 minutes Mike Dunleavy 6-9 SF from Duke 13.4 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.5 minutes Change in team outlook: +4.9 ppg, -1.3 rpg, and +0.6 apg. Toronto Trade Breakdown Outgoing Lamond Murray 6-7 SF from California 6.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.8 apg in 14.8 minutes Morris Peterson 6-7 SG from Michigan State 12.6 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.1 apg in 30.6 minutes Aaron Williams 6-9 PF from Xavier 2.0 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.9 minutes Loren Woods 7-2 C from Arizona 3.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 15.8 minutes Incoming Erick Dampier 6-11 C from Mississippi State 9.2 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes Derek Fisher 6-1 PG from Arkansas-Little Rock 11.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.1 apg in 30.0 minutes Change in team outlook: -3.5 ppg, -1.8 rpg, and +1.4 apg. Golden State Trade Breakdown Outgoing Derek Fisher 6-1 PG from Arkansas-Little Rock 11.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.1 apg in 30.0 minutes Mike Dunleavy 6-9 SF from Duke 13.4 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 32.5 minutes Andris Biedrins 6-11 C from Latvia 3.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 12.8 minutes Incoming Jerry Stackhouse 6-6 SG from North Carolina 14.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.3 apg in 28.9 minutes Devin Harris 6-3 PG from Wisconsin 5.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.2 apg in 15.4 minutes Loren Woods 7-2 C from Arizona 3.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 15.8 minutes Change in team outlook: -4.3 ppg, -2.9 rpg, and -2.2 apg. Don't be shy to join the fray. Your comments are appreciated. |
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This might be the worst trade scenario I could possibly imagine. First of all, Jamaal Magloire is not an upgrade from the Dampster. Second of all, why would we trade Devin Harris for no point guard in return. This is the guy the General is trusting to run the team for years to come and you want to give him away? JR smith could be a star some day, but why get him when we already have an abundance of 2/3 type players? And who wants Aaron Williams and Lammond Murray? Thats the last thing we need as we are trying to build a younger more athletic team. And trading Stack? The guy is without a doubt the second most potent scoring option on our team. No better player comes off the bench anywhere and he proved to be crucial last season. If this trade actually went through, we might be out of the playoffs next year. Terrible.
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RE: Trade Dampier Blog
Gooseman Give it up Please.
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Easily the worst thread I have ever seen here, easily.
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The whole "New" lineup is just a downgrade overall. If you want to see how it would be to play SA in the first round because we would barely squeeze into the playoffs being the 8th seed, then pull off that franchise changing trade. Look at PJ's stat line, he plays way more minutes and he still averages just about the same numbers as Damp. STUPID TRADE.. However, Jamaal Magloire is somewhat of an upgrade from Damp.
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Trade Dampier Blog Continues:
Dallas Trade Breakdown Outgoing Keith Van Horn 6-10 SF from Utah 12.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 23.6 minutes Erick Dampier 6-11 C from Mississippi State 9.2 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes Devin Harris 6-3 PG from Wisconsin 5.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.2 apg in 15.4 minutes Incoming Andre Miller 6-2 PG from Utah 13.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 6.9 apg in 34.8 minutes Tim Thomas 6-10 SF from Villanova 12.0 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 1.6 apg in 27.3 minutes Kirk Hinrich 6-3 SG from Kansas 15.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 6.4 apg in 36.4 minutes Stacey Augmon 6-8 SF from UNLV 3.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.7 apg in 12.1 minutes Mario Kasun 7-1 C from Croatia (Foreign) 2.6 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.9 minutes Change in team outlook: +20.3 ppg, +1.7 rpg, and +11.5 apg. Denver Trade Breakdown Outgoing Eduardo Najera 6-8 SF from Oklahoma 6.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 22.1 minutes Andre Miller 6-2 PG from Utah 13.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 6.9 apg in 34.8 minutes Kenyon Martin 6-9 PF from Cincinnati 15.5 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 2.4 apg in 32.5 minutes Incoming Keith Van Horn 6-10 SF from Utah 12.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 23.6 minutes Erick Dampier 6-11 C from Mississippi State 9.2 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes Change in team outlook: -14.6 ppg, -3.2 rpg, and -8.3 apg. Chicago Trade Breakdown Outgoing Tim Thomas 6-10 SF from Villanova 12.0 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 1.6 apg in 27.3 minutes Malik Allen 6-10 PF from Villanova 5.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 12.3 minutes Kirk Hinrich 6-3 SG from Kansas 15.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 6.4 apg in 36.4 minutes Incoming Devin Harris 6-3 PG from Wisconsin 5.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.2 apg in 15.4 minutes Eduardo Najera 6-8 SF from Oklahoma 6.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 22.1 minutes Kenyon Martin 6-9 PF from Cincinnati 15.5 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 2.4 apg in 32.5 minutes Change in team outlook: -4.6 ppg, +4.0 rpg, and -2.6 apg. Orlando Trade Breakdown Outgoing Stacey Augmon 6-8 SF from UNLV 3.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.7 apg in 12.1 minutes Mario Kasun 7-1 C from Croatia (Foreign) 2.6 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.9 minutes Incoming Malik Allen 6-10 PF from Villanova 5.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 12.3 minutes Change in team outlook: -1.1 ppg, -2.5 rpg, and -0.6 apg. Yo! Wuzup! Denver can sign Nene now! Chicago gets Kenyon! Orlando gets a PF! Woot! Show your confidence in Diop by posting more Dampier trades! |
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RE: Trade Dampier Blog
A swing and a miss.
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RE:Trade Dampier Blog
Your an idiot.
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Wohooooooooooo I forgot an E. Good for the spelling police.
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You guys are so full of Dampier.
He is the reason why this season started out as it did. Dampier is just not gifted enough offensively. That is the sole reason why our offense looks horrible. Not because of the absense of stackhouse the performance of Doug, Terry, Dirk, or because of little admiral avy. It's because of that no good goon! Before the start of the season he told us that he was going to be more aggressive, that he would play like the megamills he's being paid. He lied! He lied to me and the media and all of you! He hurt me. |
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That explains 36 minutes of bad O in the 2 games combined. What explains the rest. (No I dont believe it explains it. Just wondering how damp could effect the O when he isnt on the court.)
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This thread is stuck on stupid.
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RE: Trade Dampier Blog
Saw this on the Kings board. How about:
Dallas Trade Breakdown Outgoing Erick Dampier 6-11 C from Mississippi State 9.2 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes Incoming Brad Miller 7-0 C from Purdue 15.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 3.9 apg in 37.3 minutes Change in team outlook: +6.4 ppg, +0.8 rpg, and +3.0 apg. Sacramento Trade Breakdown Outgoing Brad Miller 7-0 C from Purdue 15.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 3.9 apg in 37.3 minutes Incoming Erick Dampier 6-11 C from Mississippi State 9.2 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes |
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There's a reason Sacramento's such a horrible rebounding team... No disrespect to Brad Miller, probably the best passing center in the NBA, but he's a finesse player. He's really a jumpshooting, passing center, and doesn't bring much the defensive end. Now that's fine if you have someone like Jermaine O'Neal or Elton Brand at the 4. However, if you put him next to a player like Dirk, someone who's also primarily a perimeter-scorer, then you're setting yourself up to get slaughtered on the offensive glass. When your dealing with any aspect of the game, especially a frontline, you need players that compliment eachother's strengths and compensate for eachother's weaknesses... Dirk needs a garbage man like Dampier in the paint, not a finesse-center like Miller.
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Nice analysis. Here are the career rebounding numbers: --------off def tot Damp 2.9 4.4 7.3 Miller 2.4 5.3 7.7 Miller is, in fact, a better rebounder than Damp! Damp does have a slight edge in offensive rebounding. I think that is more than overcome by Miller's consistency and passing ability. I'd do the trade in a heart-beat, and I think the Mavs would do it too. |
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