Jerry Stackhouse the least clutch player in the history of Mavs basketball?

[Murphy3]

This is from Bob Strum's blog. He's a member of the friendly Ticket on 1310 AM radio sport.
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Jerry Stackhouse, on the other hand, seems to be a meltdown waiting to happen in the most crucial moments of a key game. Let’s consider the evidence: Game 1 of this series and his multi-faceted meltdown in San Antonio (or the Mavericks could have a 3-0 lead in this series), the end of Game 6 in the Phoenix game last year (I was reminded by P1 Jared) when he ignored pleas for a timeout and took a shot at the end of regulation, and of course last night, when he took a very ill-advised shot with 13 seconds left, then botched the free throw in a way that would have been embarrassing for a high school kid, let alone a 10 year NBA veteran. For a guy who is supposed to be “nails”, I am not feeling it right now.

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[nashtymavsfan13]

LOL, there is so much Stack hatin going on.

[Maringa]

Stackhouse or KVH? I at least hope KVH can play little tomorrow to spell Dirk some minutes to rest his ankle...

[nashtymavsfan13]

I like Stack better than KVH.

[bricklayer]

Stack

[ddh33]

Stack has a little too much daredevil in him, and he's got a ton of confidence that he can get the job done. Sometimes that worries me...

I do think Stack is a valuable member to this team though. For instance, there was a huge shot last night that Stack hit as he was fading out of bounds. It looked like he couldn't even see the goal, but he calmly drilled it. It was one of those shots I meant to make more of a point of because it seemed like a big shot at the time. Stack also hit the game winner against Boston this season.

But whether he hits another game winner or not, I think Stack gives this team the toughness and confidence out there on the floor. It's an unspoken thing, but I think it means something.

It doesn't necessarily mean that I want Dallas consistently drawing up the last shot for him though.

[Member]

Granted he hasn't been hot in crunchtime as of late and has made a few bonehead decisions just like everyone else does, calling stackhouse the "least clutch player in the history of Maverick basketball" sounds like a Walton quote:

"That could have possibly been the worst inbounds pass in the history of the
Clipper's franchise."

[dude1394]

I also think stack is pretty damn studly. That late play when he got dirks pass and took it up strong was allright.

But he does seem sort of shaky in the iq dept.

[nashtymavsfan13]

The TO's and the low bball IQ are the only things that bother me about Stack. He is great offensively. KVH bugs me, it's time for him to go.

[Murphy3]

Stack is great offensively? Damn, how loosely do you use the word 'great'? I suppose I'm a great physician because I was able to put a band-aid on my nephews knee earlier today.

[Tokey41]

Come on now... Stacks best contribution to this team is his firepower off the bench, thats what he does.. I mean I don't know what else he does. KVH is too fragile, at least Stack suits up. I would hate to see KVH return to Dallas, surely we can find something better... perhaps more durable.

[bernardos70]

Stack has been doing well lately, except for some mental farts late in games when it counts. Overall though, he is being more of a positive than a negative, keeping the Spurs defense honest at least. Once again, at the end of games he goes away from what mostly makes him a positive, which is attacking the rim aggressively. I think he could have driven to the basket on that last missed jump shot.

[rabbitproof]

I don't think Stack is anti-clutch. Rather, he makes a few boneheaded mistakes but it's not like these mistakes only occur in the crunch.. those same mistakes happen throughout the game. Clutch means their performance rises exponentially to the rising pressure and the rising stakes. The opposite is true for anti-clutch.

What happens to KVH is anti-clutch - he'll play a good game and then fumble when it counts.

Stack is just over-aggressive. His mistakes can be described as 'not intelligent' in the middle parts of the game, and can be mistaken for 'anti-clutch' in the closing moments of the game, but the late-game errors are not 'anti-clutch' but rather are still just 'not intelligent' ones.

Get it? Got it. Good.

[Evilmav2]

Originally Posted by Murphy3

Stack is great offensively? Damn, how loosely do you use the word 'great'?

So a man who scored 29.8 ppg over the course of an entire season, and who has averaged close to 20 ppg over a 10 year career isn't 'great offensively'? Well, I hope you can pardon me as I vent a big vaporous salutation out of my rear in celebration of your argument now, because I think your above referenced and strangely uninformed argument is probably worth just a little bit less than the gas that just passed through my boxers, if indeed,my fruitful but stinky efflux had been bottled, saved, and marketed for commercial reasons.

Jerry Stackhouse has (admirably and willingly) taken a step back offensively with our Mavericks over the last two seasons, in his darned respectable attempt to do the best job that he can do to fill a 6th-man, bench role, and not step on the Big German's toes, but that doesn't mean the man can't score anymore. You might think that the StackAttack isn't 'great' offensively, but I sure as shit would bet that an honest, candid, and torched Manu Ginobli wouldn't be quite so shallowly glib in his assessment of the ability of Jerry Stackhouse to put the bisquit in the basket, and I surer as shit will also bet that Stack will end up being regarded by history as being a key, KEY, offensive contributer to the first Dirk-era, Dallas Mavericks championship team (as he has been, thus far in the sp*r series, where he's been averaging almost 18 ppg and shooting a very healthy 50% from the field)...

[Murphy3]

It's been awhile since Stack scored anywhere near that much per game. I'm sorry, but we're no longer living in the past. Stack hasn't stepped aside or anything offensively for the good of the team. Stack's offensive game has deteriorated to a point to where you don't know whether it would be better to have him or Adrian Griffin on the court more on a regular basis.

[Drbio]

Originally Posted by Murphy3

Stack's offensive game has deteriorated to a point to where you don't know whether it would be better to have him or Adrian Griffin on the court more on a regular basis.

I'm sorry but this is just horseshit.

[dalmations202]

Murph's view of Stack is now rivaling Madape's view of Damp.............too funny.

[jthig32]

I'd say Murph's view was dead on in the regular season. However, he's really turned his game around so far in the playoffs, assuming of course you can ignore the crap he's doing in the final minutes. I've been very relieved to see a more effective stack this series.

BTW, to reference back to Sturm's blog:
<----------------- = P1 Jared

[Murphy3]

Originally Posted by Drbio

I'm sorry but this is just horseshit.

Why? I'm not talking about offensively. I'm talking about their game. You just don't know what you're going to get out of Stack. Look at his numbers since the beginning of February. An intelligent person could not disagree with my statement simply because Stack has been bad more often than being good. With Griffin, you know you're going to get intelligent play and good defense almost all of the time. With Stack, half the time, he might as well not even be on the court. Well, half the time, it'd be better having a guy on the court that did absolutely nothing offensively other than try to grab boards than to have Stack out there.

Look at his numbers since February. You cannot argue against this.

[Drbio]

As has been pointed out ad naseum, it ain't all about numbers. Stackhouse gives the Mavs a better chance to win. I know you hate the guy but that is just the way it is.

[Murphy3]

Griffin also gives the team a better chance to win. Isn't that why you sign players? To give your team a better chance to win? If that wasn't the case, I'd be on an NBA roster. But, Stack has played like nothing more than a guy that's at the end of the rotation since the beginning of February.

[Drbio]

Pretty lame follow up. Thankfully, Avery understands that a constricted playoff roster includes Stackhouse....and very little Griff. I like Griff and he has been great for us this year, but Stack > Griff. It is just the way it is.

[endtroducing MASKED]

Originally Posted by Murphy3

Griffin also gives the team a better chance to win. Isn't that why you sign players? To give your team a better chance to win? If that wasn't the case, I'd be on an NBA roster. But, Stack has played like nothing more than a guy that's at the end of the rotation since the beginning of February.

Stackhouse commands attention from the defense, and Griffin doesn't. Griffin is not going to do anything offensively, which basically has the Mavericks playing 4 on 5.

[Murphy3]

I agree that Stack is the better choice in this series. However, my statement was that Stack's play has deteriorated to the point over the past 4 months that you don't know what you're going to get from him. You get as more out of Griffin as you do Stack half the time. Of course, that's factoring in what they do on both sides of the ball.

There wasn't alot of attention paid to Stack the last 3-4 months. It's just good to finally see him playing decent ball.

[Dtownsfinest]

Stack commands attention from the defense? Are we watching the same series? Stack has been open on damn near every shot. I thought it was the Spurs defense allowing him to beat them rather than Dirk.

[jthig32]

Doc, remember that Griff played a significant role in the Memphis series.

Griff is a poor matchup in this series because of how the Spurs are playing their defense. I think he'd be a poor matchup against the Suns as well. If we advance adn play the Clips or advance to play the Pistons or even the Heat, I think Griff would play a very important role.

I agree with everything Murph is saying, in regards to the regular season. The last two-three months I was MUCH happier with Griff on the court.

To Stack's credit though, he's stepped up in the playoffs....except for the final minutes of games.

[SeriousSummer]

"Stackhouse commands attention from the defense, and Griffin doesn't. Griffin is not going to do anything offensively, which basically has the Mavericks playing 4 on 5."

That wouldn't be so bad, but since the Mavs centers don't play on offense, either, it's really 3 on 5. That's why San Antonio was able to afford to play 3 guys on Dirk in the first game.

[Murphy3]

Well, here's the point. Half the time, Stack does nothing offensively AND does very little defensively. At least with Griff you know you'll get a guy that'll attack the o'boards and play defense.

And yes, Serious is dead on with his post.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Stack never saw a shot he didn't like.

[EricaLubarsky]

speaking of which, that Harris three was a shot that Harris shouldnt have liked. He just got so involved in the feeling of how smoothly the 2man game was going that he jacked up an awful shot.

An open shot isnt necessarily a good shot. If you shoot 2-7 from three, then maybe that shouldnt be one of the last 5 shots of the game for your team

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Thats like one thing by Harris. Stack coulda blown the game with that nice flop of a free throw. Even his mom bitched him out after the game. Thats pretty bad.

[EricaLubarsky]

Dont get me wrong-- Harris was our leading +/- guy for the game, and really won the game for us but that was really poor shot selection there.