Dirk FINALLY shows up - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Knickfan · 05-24-2006, 11:37 AM

I know everyone here are huge Dirk Fans. I have to be honest I have NOT been a fan of Dirk's in the past, I've always thought he was overrated and just a good shooter. All I can say now is I'M SORRY!!!! This guy is the real deal. This guy is amazing, he doesn't play the best defense but he does WAY more than most superstars do for their team. He impressed me play after play the series against the Spurs. I don't care what happens from this point on, he has definately made himself an elite player in this league and NOW I think it's time for people to start talking about this guy when you talk about the NBA from a historical standpoint... The Mavericks are LUCKY to have this guy and if "DUMBA$$" Cuban doesn't do whatever it takes to continue to make Dirk happy, then that man truly is an idiot!!!!!

Usually Lurkin · 05-24-2006, 11:49 AM

dear street preacher,
welcome to the congregation.

signed,
the choir

Nash13 · 05-24-2006, 11:53 AM

Did a Knick fan just call our owner dumb?

alexamenos · 05-24-2006, 11:55 AM

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I know everyone here are huge Dirk Fans. I have to be honest I have NOT been a fan of Dirk's in the past, I've always thought he was overrated and just a good shooter. All I can say now is I'M SORRY!!!! This guy is the real deal. This guy is amazing, he doesn't play the best defense but he does WAY more than most superstars do for their team. He impressed me play after play the series against the Spurs. I don't care what happens from this point on, he has definately made himself an elite player in this league and NOW I think it's time for people to start talking about this guy when you talk about the NBA from a historical standpoint... The Mavericks are LUCKY to have this guy and if "DUMBA$$" Cuban doesn't do whatever it takes to continue to make Dirk happy, then that man truly is an idiot!!!!!

I wouldn't agree that Dirk "finally" showed up -- he's always been a good performer in the playoffs. He's improved year in and year out, so it's no surprise in this regard that he's playing better in this year's playoffs than in any prior year.

Also, I sincerely doubt the Dumbass Cuban will let Dirk go -- there's a reason the Mavs let two of the big 3 go, but not Dirk.

fluid.forty.one · 05-24-2006, 12:01 PM

cuban will not let dirk go. i'm glad you saw the light though.

Knickfan · 05-24-2006, 01:37 PM

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Did a Knick fan just call our owner dumb?

LOL.. That is funny but the word dumb wouldn't even come close to describing what the Knicks owner is. And I'm not saying I EVER thought Dirk was a scrub by any stretch of the imagination, but I truly believed at one point the Mavericks could win without him. WELL THAT WAS WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!! The guy is simply put great.....

Your owner on the other hand, while you all may like him, I think he's a clown. A rich one, but a clown nonetheless.

thunderFence · 05-24-2006, 03:38 PM

i'd rather have aids than isiah thomas

i have neither so **thunderFence points to scoreboard**

Thespiralgoeson · 05-24-2006, 05:38 PM

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LOL.. That is funny but the word dumb wouldn't even come close to describing what the Knicks owner is. And I'm not saying I EVER thought Dirk was a scrub by any stretch of the imagination, but I truly believed at one point the Mavericks could win without him. WELL THAT WAS WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!! The guy is simply put great.....

Your owner on the other hand, while you all may like him, I think he's a clown. A rich one, but a clown nonetheless.

Cuban may be a clown. But he's a clown that's made this franchise very succuessful.

Hell, maybe being a clown isn't such a bad thing anyway. I mean, Shaq called Don Nelson a clown, and he's the 2nd winningest coach in NBA history.

Knickfan · 05-25-2006, 09:14 AM

I'm not going to dispute what the man's done as far as putting a team together, although the way Dirk has evolved, I personally think alot more of the credit should go to him. That guy is DEFINATELY the difference maker and his being in Dallas is because of Don Nelson not Cuban.

mavsfanforever · 05-25-2006, 09:37 AM

I think knicks are trying to get KVH now.

Knickfan · 05-25-2006, 10:09 AM

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I think knicks are trying to get KVH now

who is KVH?

thunderFence · 05-25-2006, 10:10 AM

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who is KVH?

keith van suck

Knickfan · 05-25-2006, 10:18 AM

I bet no one was calling him Keith Van Suck when he hit those three pointers in the fourth quarter against the Spurs though...

Again, I'm NOT going to sit here and say the Knicks make better moves or are a better organization than the Mavericks, I'm not an idiot. All I'm saying Cuban is a clown in my opinion, which that and 50 cents will get you a soda out of my vending machine at work. However Cuban has made some questionable acquisitions in the past too, so don't say he's flawless either.

alexamenos · 05-25-2006, 10:28 AM

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However Cuban has made some questionable acquisitions in the past too, so don't say he's flawless either.

IMO, Cuban gets too much credit for the good acquisitions and too much blame for the bad ones .... he defers a great deal to the Lil Whistle and Aj. .... eg, I understand that no-one lobbied harder for Damp than Avery.

cheers

Usually Lurkin · 05-25-2006, 11:18 AM

Hey Knicksfan,

I think you'll find that just about all mavs fans will agree that Cuban's a clown. There will be disagreements on whether his clownship is worth it. He makes most of us uncomfortable at times, but it's hard to argue with the results. Lots of wins, playoff improvement, and a very good show are exactly what we've asked of him.

As for Dirk stepping up, it's debatable whether Dirk just now stepped up, his team just stepped up to be where he's been for a while, or the media has finally stepped out of their own crap-hole of a "slow white Euro" bias. But it sure is nice to see him get some of the credit we've thought he's deserved. Keep watching. He'll get better for a couple more years.

fluid.forty.one · 05-25-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderFence

i'd rather have aids than isiah thomas

i have neither so **thunderFence points to scoreboard**

lol

Knickfan · 05-25-2006, 01:33 PM

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I think you'll find that just about all mavs fans will agree that Cuban's a clown. There will be disagreements on whether his clownship is worth it. He makes most of us uncomfortable at times, but it's hard to argue with the results. Lots of wins, playoff improvement, and a very good show are exactly what we've asked of him.

Very true statement but I just can't stand the man. Maybe I would feel differently if he brought the Knicks but he's not their owner and I can't stand him, but I won't dispute he's done a fine job of creating some excitement there in Dallas since he's taken over.

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As for Dirk stepping up, it's debatable whether Dirk just now stepped up, his team just stepped up to be where he's been for a while, or the media has finally stepped out of their own crap-hole of a "slow white Euro" bias. But it sure is nice to see him get some of the credit we've thought he's deserved. Keep watching. He'll get better for a couple more years.

Interesting point. I don't know if I completely agree with that statement though. Now I do agree some players are stepping up in the playoffs ie: Howard, Harris and Stackhouse, but even with the great play of those players would this team be in the Western conference finals EVEN WITH their play and no Dirk? I truly doubt it, NOW you replace those players with other solid players and I think Dirk has stepped it up enough to get those other players to this level. The reason I say this is because Dirk has show SO MUCH more fire than he has over the past few years. I'm NOT saying he wasn't good because he's been a stud for the past four to five years but he's figured it out now and he knows how to get others around him to his level. I don't know if the others could do that without Dirk, that's my point with Dirk.