07-23-2006, 04:50 PM
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2 spots
After the Armstrong trade we have 2 spots on our roster. who do you think would be good to fill them. im looking at Pops Mensah- Bonsu and Kevin pittsnogle as possibilitys. and less likely are Jim Jackson, let him finish his career with the mavs. and eddie house who looks like hes leaving the suns with incoming marcus banks. good defender not a bad pick to have riding the bench or injured reserves.
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07-23-2006, 05:05 PM
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Why would we sign House? He's looking for bigger money and he's a poor man's Jason Terry. With Harris, Terry and now Johnson at the point, House seems like a bad choice.
Evans, Ariza, Jeffreys all seem like adequate solutions, but they'd require a player or SnT. A young forward might not be a bad choice either.
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07-23-2006, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Why would we sign House? He's looking for bigger money and he's a poor man's Jason Terry. With Harris, Terry and now Johnson at the point, House seems like a bad choice.
Evans, Ariza, Jeffreys all seem like adequate solutions, but they'd require a player or SnT. A young forward might not be a bad choice either.
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i mentioned house cause i see our line up for next year being
Diop/Damp/Dj
Dirk/ Croshere
Howard/ Stack
Terry/ Buckner/Ager
Johnson/ Harris
i would see terry as being a shooting guard cause of his offensive styles. i also dont know what kinda money house would be after. i dont think it should be that much but then again its the nba.
and did we already get Pops or is just Pops is basically a shoe in now?
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07-23-2006, 06:01 PM
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New to the board, but a long time mavs fan and reader of message boards...
As for the slots. I think Pops will make the team as long as he doesn't screw up in training camp. He takes care of the PF/SF spot, if they wanna get another player I'd go for Ariza or Jurmaine Jones
As a sidenote...I was a frequentor of the LMF, did it officially die? And, what are some other good mavs boards to go to, along with this one.
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07-23-2006, 06:21 PM
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As a sidenote...I was a frequentor of the LMF, did it officially die? And, what are some other good mavs boards to go to, along with this one.
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Nope.
Lone Mavs Forum
And to keep this on topic, I say Pops... but only because chum is high on him. The 2nd slot? They should have a towel waving contest and whoever does it the best gets the job. You don't see many towel wavers at the end of benches anymore.
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07-23-2006, 07:29 PM
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I still want Jarred Jeffries.
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07-23-2006, 07:33 PM
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we arent going to get jeffries for what we have left.
i'm not sure if we have enough to get ariza, but he may be a bit of a better fit for what we're looking for behind howard. my money would go towards signing ariza if possible.
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07-23-2006, 07:47 PM
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I am ready to go to war with what we have, but if I had my way I would still like to see the Mavs get a more athletic, mobile center/PF in the rotation. I would love to get Drew Gooden, Marcus Camby, or Jeff Foster but I don't see that happening unless someone is willing to take on Damp's contract.
I would also like to see a pure shooter added. Put someone like Casey Jacobsen at the end of the bench and only use him if we have one of those nights when no one is hitting the jumper. Sort of like how the Spurs used Steve Kerr.
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07-23-2006, 07:55 PM
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Actually Casey Jacobsen wouldn't be a bad idea as the end of the bench guy. He is a a true small forward, and he most definitely can shoot.
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07-23-2006, 07:56 PM
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If neither Rawle or Powell are in the plans (if they are waived from Indy) then i want another young flier brought in for our 14 or 15th man. Just a young kid who has some upside and a chance of developing. Maybe Ebi (formerly of Minny) or Dejuan Wagner (formerly of Clev). Someone of that caliber. If it doesn't work out then we replace that spot next year. I think you are going to have a hard time getting Ariza to sign an offer sheet with our money and really very limited playing time if we have a healthy roster.
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07-23-2006, 08:11 PM
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Wagner is like Red Stripe beer though. A shooting guard in a short stubby body. No thanks.
Ebi would be intriguing if he hadn't been cut by Minnesota a couple of times. He is still extremely young. He has the body of Eddie Griffin. (I have no clue what kind of ghame he plays however.)
I agree you want them to be young with potential but by that same token, the Mavs already have two guys like that : DJ & Pavel. So in essence Dallas needs a "plug gap" in case someone gets hurt. Somebody that can play a few minutes here and there or play big minutes for a game or two. Someone with prior pro experience will certainly help.
If the Mavs go with Pops as one guy they probably choose a swingman for the other one. A shooter more than likely.
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07-23-2006, 09:21 PM
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One of the articles about the DA>AJ trade mentioned Devean George. He would be a decent option to backup Howard. He's been coached well, can hit the 3, rebounds well, and plays good defense. Did not see him play last year though.
I'm not sure what it would take to get him.
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07-23-2006, 09:45 PM
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If everything else fails, we can always try to lure Walt Williams out of retirement
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07-23-2006, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jacktruth
One of the articles about the DA>AJ trade mentioned Devean George. He would be a decent option to backup Howard. He's been coached well, can hit the 3, rebounds well, and plays good defense. Did not see him play last year though.
I'm not sure what it would take to get him.
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What article was this?
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07-23-2006, 10:49 PM
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Deal near on third point guard
By Art Garcia
Star-Telegram Staff Writer
The Mavericks are on the verge of filling their third point guard slot by trading for Indiana veteran Anthony Johnson, league sources confirmed Saturday night.
The Mavs are sending free-agent guard Darrell Armstrong and forwards Josh Powell and Rawle Marshall to the Pacers in a deal that has been agreed upon but can't be completed until NBA offices open Monday.
Johnson (6-foot-3, 200 pounds), a 10-year veteran, averaged a career-high 9.2 points and 4.3 assists last season, starting 53 games with the Pacers.
He averaged 20 points and 5.2 assists in six playoff games last season. Johnson, 31, has two years left on his contract for $2.64 million and $2.86 million.
Armstrong joined the Mavs during the 2004-05 season. As a free agent, he's agreed to a new contract to facilitate the sign-and-trade arrangement.
With a third point guard behind Jason Terry and Devin Harris settled, the next priority for the Mavs is adding another swingman or reserve power forward.
The Mavs have approximately $2 million remaining from the mid-level exception, a $1.75 million biennial exception and the ability to use Keith Van Horn in another sign-and-trade.
Among available swingmen, Devean George and Fred Jones could be in the team's price range. Power forward Reggie Evans is another option.
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07-23-2006, 11:06 PM
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If everything else fails, we can always try to lure Walt Williams out of retirement
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bring back the wizard!!!!!!!!!
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07-23-2006, 11:50 PM
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We are currently uncomfortably thin at the small forward position. We need a couple more 6' 6" players who can actually contribute in the game (or players quick enough to guard small forwards). Currently, we have Howard & Stack. Who are we going to get? is another trade coming? Anyone from summer league who can really play? Stack & Howard have both had their share of injuries. If one or both of them go down, we will be VERY small.
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07-23-2006, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Disaster
We are currently uncomfortably thin at the small forward position. We need a couple more 6' 6" players who can actually contribute in the game (or players quick enough to guard small forwards). Currently, we have Howard & Stack. Who are we going to get? is another trade coming? Anyone from summer league who can really play? Stack & Howard have both had their share of injuries. If one or both of them go down, we will be VERY small.
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Pops can play some small forward but if we want to get a true 6'6" small forward player i see the possibility of signing one of two lakers. George or Jackson. when i started this thread i was semi-joking about Jackson but i just read that the mavs might pick him up as there end of the bench instant offense. In my mind the two of these come down to George being a better defender and Jackson being a better shooter but if the mavs had to get one of the two im pretty sure itd be George.
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07-24-2006, 12:58 AM
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I'm hoping for Pops and Evans, because with Marshall being gone we could use Croshere at the 3 sometimes too. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Marshall signed again if the Pacers waive him.
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07-24-2006, 01:06 AM
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George is the better choice, if we could get him we should.
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07-24-2006, 09:31 AM
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I agree with Nashty
As for George, i dont like him just for the fact that he's with the Lakers. On the bright side, i kinda think his game is a-ok. Good shooter, gets to the basket pretty well
I'd still go for Pops and Evans though.
I see Marshall getting signed also. They shoulve traded for DA and AJ straight if there is a possibility that Pow and Marshall are gonna get waived. IF!!
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07-24-2006, 09:59 AM
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They shoulve traded for DA and AJ straight.
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good grief. Please try to keep up. It couldn't happen.
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07-24-2006, 10:43 AM
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good grief. Please try to keep up. It couldn't happen.
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I said IF.
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07-24-2006, 12:40 PM
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The contracts wouldn't have matched. Powell and Marshall had to be included.
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"We wanted this for Dirk because of his heart, his class, his work ethic, his humility, his sense of humor, his respect for the game, and his respect for people."
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07-24-2006, 03:59 PM
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I said IF.
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Only after you editted the post...you see there are times posted when that happens. Try again later.
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07-24-2006, 05:36 PM
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Lol, nice try mqywaaah.
The trade wouldn't have worked without Marshall and Powell being included. Period.
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"For a team as good as the Mavs, the regular season is just 82 practice games until the real season begins." -G-Man
"We wanted this for Dirk because of his heart, his class, his work ethic, his humility, his sense of humor, his respect for the game, and his respect for people."
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07-24-2006, 06:45 PM
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Lol, nice try mqywaaah.
The trade wouldn't have worked without Marshall and Powell being included. Period.
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They could have signed da contract to match aj if both sides agreed on it so it could have worked but I think indy wanted to take a look at the 2 youngsters
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07-24-2006, 06:50 PM
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They could have signed da contract to match aj if both sides agreed on it so it could have worked but I think indy wanted to take a look at the 2 youngsters
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Nah, Indy wouldn't hae done that, this was a salary dump for them. The contracts had to match, but now Indy will most likely waive one or both of the youngsters.
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"For a team as good as the Mavs, the regular season is just 82 practice games until the real season begins." -G-Man
"We wanted this for Dirk because of his heart, his class, his work ethic, his humility, his sense of humor, his respect for the game, and his respect for people."
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07-24-2006, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jacktruth
One of the articles about the DA>AJ trade mentioned Devean George. He would be a decent option to backup Howard. He's been coached well, can hit the 3, rebounds well, and plays good defense. Did not see him play last year though.
I'm not sure what it would take to get him.
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Avery is finally listening to me!
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07-25-2006, 12:06 AM
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And who's the last piece? Evans? Wells? KMart? Dalembert?
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07-25-2006, 12:22 AM
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Only after you editted the post...you see there are times posted when that happens. Try again later.
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Uhuh. I know that. I was editting my post, next thing I know youre post is already there man. My bad. Will try to make it more clear the nextime. Hey, were all on the same side here right? haha
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07-25-2006, 12:26 AM
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Barring any further trades... we're 14 now, and I hope we keep the 15th slot open... for flexibility during the season... for injury replacements or for some unexpected availability of a star player... etc.
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