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Old 06-09-2008, 11:54 PM   #1
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Is Obama an Enlightened Being?

Spiritual wise ones say: This sure ain't no ordinary politician.

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

Friday, June 6, 2008

I find I'm having this discussion, this weird little debate, more and more, with colleagues, with readers, with liberals and moderates and miserable, deeply depressed Republicans and spiritually amped persons of all shapes and stripes and I'm having it in particular with those who seem confused, angry, unsure, thoroughly nonplussed, as they all ask me the same thing: What the hell's the big deal about Obama?

I, of course, have an answer. Sort of.

Warning: If you are a rigid pragmatist/literalist, itchingly evangelical, a scowler, a doubter, a burned-out former '60s radical with no hope left, or are otherwise unable or unwilling to parse alternative New Age speak, click away right now, because you ain't gonna like this one little bit.

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Barack Obama isn't really one of us. Not in the normal way, anyway.

This is what I find myself offering up more and more in response to the whiners and the frowners and to those with broken or sadly dysfunctional karmic antennae - or no antennae at all - to all those who just don't understand and maybe even actively recoil against all this chatter about Obama's aura and feel and MLK/JFK-like vibe.

To them I say, all right, you want to know what it is? The appeal, the pull, the ethereal and magical thing that seems to enthrall millions of people from all over the world, that keeps opening up and firing into new channels of the culture normally completely unaffected by politics?

No, it's not merely his youthful vigor, or handsomeness, or even inspiring rhetoric. It is not fresh ideas or cool charisma or the fact that a black president will be historic and revolutionary in about a thousand different ways. It is something more. Even Bill Clinton, with all his effortless, winking charm, didn't have what Obama has, which is a sort of powerful luminosity, a unique high-vibration integrity.

Dismiss it all you like, but I've heard from far too many enormously smart, wise, spiritually attuned people who've been intuitively blown away by Obama's presence - not speeches, not policies, but sheer presence - to say it's just a clever marketing ploy, a slick gambit carefully orchestrated by hotshot campaign organizers who, once Obama gets into office, will suddenly turn from perky optimists to vile soul-sucking lobbyist whores, with Obama as their suddenly evil, cackling overlord.

Here's where it gets gooey. Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve. They are philosophers and peacemakers of a very high order, and they speak not just to reason or emotion, but to the soul.

The unusual thing is, true Lightworkers almost never appear on such a brutal, spiritually demeaning stage as national politics. This is why Obama is so rare. And this why he is so often compared to Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr., to those leaders in our culture whose stirring vibrations still resonate throughout our short history.

Are you rolling your eyes and scoffing? Fine by me. But you gotta wonder, why has, say, the JFK legacy lasted so long, is so vital to our national identity? Yes, the assassination canonized his legend. The Kennedy family is our version of royalty. But there's something more. Those attuned to energies beyond the literal meanings of things, these people say JFK wasn't assassinated for any typical reason you can name. It's because he was just this kind of high-vibration being, a peacemaker, at odds with the war machine, the CIA, the dark side. And it killed him.

Now, Obama. The next step. Another try. And perhaps, as Bush laid waste to the land and embarrassed the country and pummeled our national spirit into disenchanted pulp and yet ironically, in so doing has helped set the stage for an even larger and more fascinating evolutionary burp, we are finally truly ready for another Lightworker to step up.

Let me be completely clear: I'm not arguing some sort of utopian revolution, a big global group hug with Obama as some sort of happy hippie camp counselor. I'm not saying the man's going to swoop in like a superhero messiah and stop all wars and make the flowers grow and birds sing and solve world hunger and bring puppies to schoolchildren.

Please. I'm also certainly not saying he's perfect, that his presidency will be free of compromise, or slimy insiders, or great heaps of politics-as-usual. While Obama's certainly an entire universe away from George W. Bush in terms of quality, integrity, intelligence and overall inspirational energy, well, so is your dog. Hell, it isn't hard to stand far above and beyond the worst president in American history.

But there simply is no denying that extra kick. As one reader put it to me, in a way, it's not even about Obama, per se. There's a vast amount of positive energy swirling about that's been held back by the armies of BushCo darkness, and this energy has now found a conduit, a lightning rod, is now effortlessly self-organizing around Obama's candidacy. People and emotions and ideas of high and positive vibration are automatically drawn to him. It's exactly like how Bush was a magnet for the low vibrational energies of fear and war and oppression and aggression, but, you know, completely reversed. And different. And far, far better.

Don't buy any of it? Think that's all a bunch of tofu-sucking New Agey bulls-- and Obama is really a dangerously elitist political salesman whose inexperience will lead us further into darkness because, when you're talking national politics, nothing, really, ever changes? I understand. I get it. I often believe it myself.

Not this time.

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So Obama = Anti-christ? The anti-christ is supposed to be real charming and stuff too. Not that McCain is Christ, he may have sat behind Jesus in the 3rd grade though. (yuck yuck yuck)
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Wow...san francisco...

It really is on another planet.
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I just puked all over my keyboard.
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Choosen one.

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It was kind of them to censor the picture down there, even if he is an enlightened being.
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shouldn't he be walking on water, not in it?

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Obama, JFK, Martin Luther King....

...I got a pretty good idea who is going to the top of my death pool list of he OHB gets elected.
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Only in San Francisco will you find such a gay looking drawing of Obama...
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"spiritually advanced", "high vibration integrity", "swirling positive energy", "bizarre earthly experiment", "true Lightworkers"...

I think this newspaper needs a reasonable cause testing program.

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Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker... There's a vast amount of positive energy swirling about that's been held back by the armies of BushCo darkness, and this energy has now found a conduit, a lightning rod, is now effortlessly self-organizing around Obama's candidacy. People and emotions and ideas of high and positive vibration are automatically drawn to him. It's exactly like how Bush was a magnet for the low vibrational energies of fear and war and oppression and aggression, but, you know, completely reversed. And different. And far, far better.
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I'm starting to think he's not so much enlighted as stupid. Maybe a windfall profits tax on campaign contributions is in order.

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RALEIGH, North Carolina (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama sought to tap into Americans' anxiety over high gasoline prices on Monday by pledging to seek a windfall profits tax on U.S. oil companies if elected.

Launching a two-week focus on the ailing U.S. economy, Obama drew a sharp contrast with Republican John McCain, his rival in the November election, accusing him of a "full-throated endorsement" of President George W. Bush's fiscal policies, including tax breaks for oil companies.

"I'll make oil companies like Exxon pay a tax on their windfall profits, and we'll use the money to help families pay for their skyrocketing energy costs and other bills," the Illinois senator said.

With Americans struggling to pay for record high $4-a-gallon gasoline, the jobless rate up and consumer confidence battered, Obama is attempting to focus the general election campaign on the U.S. economy.
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Obama, JFK, Martin Luther King....

...I got a pretty good idea who is going to the top of my death pool list of he OHB gets elected.
Yes indeed....

lets hope he choses his VP candidate very well.............
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lets hope he choses his VP candidate very well.............
If he did choose Hillary, would that decrease his chances of following the footsteps of JFK, MLK, . . . ?
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If he did choose Hillary, would that decrease his chances of following the footsteps of JFK, MLK, . . . ?
After reading about the "enemies" of the Clintons.........I doubt he would get the chance since deceased would be the only footsteps he could follow as Hillary takes over.
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If he did choose Hillary, would that decrease his chances of following the footsteps of JFK, MLK, . . . ?
If he did actually choose Hillary as his running mate, and if he won, Obama just be the first president in American history who would need to hire a food taster...
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Maybe he can heal the sick as well.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive.../06/020730.php
[quote]Barack Obama, to his shame, tried to make political hay out of the news that the suicide rate among veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan has increased, by sending an arrogant missive to Robert Gates, the Secretary of Defense. That prompted a devastating response from Thomas Sowell. Sowell pointed out, among other things, that the suicide rate among Iraq and Afghanistan vets is still below the rate for civilians of the same age. In this respect, the story is a fraud in the same way as the New York Times' effort to portray veterans as homicidal maniacs, which we debunked here.

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Does Senator Obama know how the rate of suicides or homicides among military veterans compares to the rate of suicides or homicides among their civilian counterparts? Do the facts matter to him, as compared to an opportunity to score political points?

Perhaps even more important, do the media even care whether Senator Obama knows what he is talking about? Or is the symbolism of "the first black President" paramount, even if that means a President with cocky ignorance at a time of national danger?

The media have been crucial to Barack Obama's whole candidacy. His only achievements of national significance in his entire career have been media achievements and rhetorical achievements.
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the only thing that would decrease is his chances of getting a term life insurance policy.
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Obama, JFK, Martin Luther King....

...I got a pretty good idea who is going to the top of my death pool list of he OHB gets elected.
wow..just wow. I cant believe people are thinking like this.
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wow..just wow. I cant believe people are thinking like this.
why should this be unthinkable?
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If no one managed to kill President Bush with all of the (misplaced) hatred of him these last 8 years, what makes anyone think someone will succeed in killing Obama?
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If no one managed to kill President Bush with all of the (misplaced) hatred of him these last 8 years, what makes anyone think someone will succeed in killing Obama?
Same way "they" killed JFK - magic bullets...

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Old 06-11-2008, 11:47 AM   #25
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wow..just wow. I cant believe people are thinking like this.
don't you think Obama the Enlightened is thinking about these things?
I bet there's a whole branch of the government that wear dark glasses, dark suits, and earpieces and do nothing but consider these things.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:04 PM   #26
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why should this be unthinkable?
I guess its not unthinkable..but I'm surprised at how many people are jumping straight to this conclusion. I heard the same thing on NPR last week...
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:19 PM   #27
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Why do I feel like I'm in the minority in believing that the US we live in today is past the fear of killing a leader because of his skin color? I KNOW there are still racists in the country, but I don't think there are any (or many) SMART racists left. Not smart enough to out-think the might of the SS.

And on the subject of Obama picking a black VP.... I know it would never happen, but if he picked Rice I would be tempted to vote for him. And I haven't voted non Republican since I voted for Mondale/Ferraro (and before you say anything against me... I knew nothing about politics... this was my fathers choice so I just robotically followed). Better yet... Keyes!!!! (dreaming, I know)
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:14 PM   #28
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but I don't think there are any (or many) SMART racists left. Not smart enough to out-think the might of the SS.
lol excellent point. Racists are pretty stupid.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:36 PM   #29
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Why do I feel like I'm in the minority in believing that the US we live in today is past the fear of killing a leader because of his skin color?
I think it's more about the assassination of lightworkers.
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most racists are followers that I have encountered, not leaders...so...you only need one smart one to lead for something to go bad.

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Old 06-11-2008, 02:05 PM   #31
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i kind of think it's not so much that a racist is the most likely to attempt to assassinate president Lightworker, but rather that a racist would make a really excellent patsy in the larger conspiracy.....

.......you know, kind of a "hey Bubba, why don't you come down to Atlanta (or Miami, or New Orleans, or whereever). We'll setup you up in a nice 4-star hotel room overlooking the parade route....bring your sheet, and that rifle we gave you for Christmas."
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Oh I get it then.......

Starting a conspiracy theory BEFORE the actual event takes place. Are you a 911 Truther too?
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:16 PM   #34
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Starting a conspiracy theory BEFORE the actual event takes place.
do you have any evidence to disprove my conspiracy theory?

hmmm????

didn't think so.
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:18 PM   #35
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:25 PM   #36
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Which term means "provable?" (click the links to find out):

theory
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i'd have to say that facts are "provable"....

theories are things which connect the facts (to a greater or lesser degree), and or not so much "provable" as "useful" to the extent which they can be used to uncover new facts or predict outcomes.

fair?
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I hope we're not all under surveillance now because of alex...
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