Cuban Interested in Marbury

[Dirkenstien]

Thought this was interesting. According to a blip in the most recent Fort-Worth Star Telegram article Cuban may be interested in Marbury should the disgruntled guard be released.

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Holding at 14

Despite J.J. Barea’s erratic play and a roster spot available, the Mavs are not looking to add depth at point guard, president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson said.

The team has not re-contacted Keith McLeod, who missed the entire preseason with a hamstring injury before being cut.

Mavs owner Mark Cuban said he’d be interested in exploring Stephon Marbury if he and the New York Knicks cut ties. Cuban, who said he has a good relationship with Marbury, questioned if Marbury would be interested in joining the Mavs as Jason Kidd’s backup.

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Link:http://www.star-telegram.com/287/story/1021294.html

[fluid.forty.one]

hmm

I remember hearing Cuban say he was not interested, but that could have been regarding a *trade* for Marbury.

Honestly if all he's getting is JJB's back up minutes, and we can keep Terry at the 2, I'm fine with this.

[Windmill360]

f**k.

[Underdog]

sh*t

[Rick41]

cr*p

[Dirkadirkastan]

p*ss.

[SMC0007]

Better than what we got now...Surely it would be at a lower price.

I think the locker room has good guys in it and it would be harder to f things up here. I'm down, as long as he understands that it is a BACKUP role.

[fluid.forty.one]

h*rse900703

[Underdog]

Meekrob!

[Kidd Karma]

He's said some garbage about Kidd, when they were traded for each other.....at the time he took it personal.....I guess it's in the past now when you look at their careers since the trade.

[LonghornDub]

Man, I'd love to get a legit backup PG, but I want no part of Starbury. The guy is a loon.

[92bDad]

That's just what this city needs...another freakin loon.

MFFL

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by 92bDad

That's just what this city needs...another freakin loon.

This post makes me giggle...

[Zki41]

Anything is better than JJB

[Flacolaco]

I'm so proud of you guys right now.

[DirkFTW]

Anything is better than Marbury

[DevinHarriswillstart]

If we're going for hot heads, is Jamaal Tinsley still available? lol

[Thespiralgoeson]

I would LOVE for the Mavs to trade for Marbury. Seriously. Doesn't he expire this year? Between Kidd, Stack, and Marbury, we would have nearly $50 million coming off the books. The only problem is that they're probably more interested in dumping payroll than we are, so I'm sure they'll just let his contract run out rather than trade him (because god knows you're not going to get anything of real value for Marbury.) Also, even if the Knicks were interested in moving him, they would have to take on a couple of our bad contracts, namely Terry, and/or Dampier. The deal I could see that would match up salary wise any two of these three players- Terry, Damp, and Josh- and they'd probably push for Bass as well. I could see the knicks doing the deal for Josh/Damp/Bass, but then we don't have much of a team left over.

Probably not going to happen either way, but still, how friggin great would it be to have 50 mil freed up and be under the cap? Hell, if we did that, we might even be able to go for Lebron when he's a free agent.

[alby]

Everyone from New York wants to go to Dallas

[EricaLubarsky]

I hear he can be had cheap.

[horse900703]

oh please~ dont be stupid this time Cuban!

[Windmill360]

Originally Posted by horse900703

oh please~ dont be stupid this time Cuban!

the gig is up capitalcity....

[dalmations202]

Marbury if cut and will play for Vet min, since he will be getting paid by the Knicks anyway -- I am all for giving him a try. (Little to lose if it doesn't pan out).

Any other reason - other than JKidd getting hurt -- and I am not interested.

[Dmac25]

sounds good to me

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by dalmations202

Marbury if cut and will play for Vet min, since he will be getting paid by the Knicks anyway -- I am all for giving him a try. (Little to lose if it doesn't pan out).

Any other reason - other than JKidd getting hurt -- and I am not interested.

Don't bet on it happening.

If I were Cuban, I would give Marbury serious consideration. That would give us one of the lowest payrolls in the league (or maybe the lowest, not sure) after he, Kidd, and Stack expire. We would then be in a position to go for Lebron in 2010, or any number of other superstars on the market.

And if Cuban were at all convinced that the Nowitzki era has run its course (and I pretty much am) and believed that it was time to rebuild, we could trade Dirk before his contract expires while his value is still high. I imagine we did some shopping we could get a pretty good deal for Dirk now; a couple of young guys with some promise, a few draft picks, and expiring or two, who knows. Then just imagine the position we would be in two years from now; enough cap room to go after anyone on the market, draft picks that we've sorely missed these past few years, and maybe a couple of young up and comers. That kind of positioning is how dynasties are born. If he's even thinking about rebuilding, this would be the absolute best way to do it.

[jthig32]

Spiral the Knicks are also clearing cap room for 2010. What on earth would they want with salary back? They'll just let him expire before doing that.

[alby]

Lebron to me is already a Net/Knick. Let's go after Dallas-native Bosh!

[Zki41]

Go after Bosh after trading Dirk or use Bosh and Dirk together?

[monty55555]

Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

He's said some garbage about Kidd, when they were traded for each other.....at the time he took it personal.....I guess it's in the past now when you look at their careers since the trade.

Oh I remember this whole thing very vividly. Marbury and his big ego. I remember what he said in 2005:

All week Stephon Marbury promised to be a more aggressive point guard, offensively and defensively. Apparently he intends to be aggressive in answering the media, too.

Until yesterday Marbury would always say "no comment" whenever Jason Kidd's name was mentioned. However, on the eve of the tonight's New Year's game between the Knicks and the Nets at Madison Square Garden, Marbury said he doesn't compare himself with the Nets' All-Star point guard -- because in his mind, he's the better player.

"Don't get me wrong -- I love Jason Kidd. He's a great point guard," Marbury said. "(But) how am I comparing myself to him when I think I'm the best point guard to play basketball? That doesn't make any sense. I mean, how can I sit here and compare myself to somebody if I already think I'm the best?

"I'm telling you what it is: I know I'm the best point guard in the NBA. I don't need anybody else to tell me that. When I go on the basketball court, if I think about what you're all saying, I'll lose my mind."

That was taken from his interview in 2005 http://unlimited.nba.free.fr/stephon.htm .. I really don't know how he will accept a "backup role" to JKidd considering his enormous ego. I know that interview was in 2005 and its been 3 years since... but I don't think his personality has changed much. He has always been a distraction to his team in more ways than one.

I only hope that if the Mavs decide to take him, the benefits would substantially outweigh the risks of having him on the team.

[Kidd Karma]

Don't know about Net, been reading stuff about Ratner trying to sell with economy so bad, Brooklyn is delayed again.

[bobatundi]

Originally Posted by 92bDad

That's just what this city needs...another freakin loon.

MFFL

I agree. The Loon is one of the best bars in town.

It's no Libertine though.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by jthig32

Spiral the Knicks are also clearing cap room for 2010. What on earth would they want with salary back? They'll just let him expire before doing that.

I know. That's what I said before.

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

The only problem is that they're probably more interested in dumping payroll than we are, so I'm sure they'll just let his contract run out rather than trade him (because god knows you're not going to get anything of real value for Marbury.) Also, even if the Knicks were interested in moving him, they would have to take on a couple of our bad contracts, namely Terry, and/or Dampier. The deal I could see that would match up salary wise any two of these three players- Terry, Damp, and Josh- and they'd probably push for Bass as well. I could see the knicks doing the deal for Josh/Damp/Bass, but then we don't have much of a team left over.

Probably not going to happen either way, but still, how friggin great would it be to have 50 mil freed up and be under the cap? Hell, if we did that, we might even be able to go for Lebron when he's a free agent.

I know it's not going to happen, but I'm just thinking here. It's really no more unrealistic than every other idea we throw around on here. Remember a couple of years ago when everyone thought we should try to get Paul Pierce? Just a couple of months ago we all thought we were going to get Corey Maggette, or Michael Redd, and Mike Miller.

Isn't that what this thread's about? The Mavs getting Marbury? Or are we talking about next year?

[bobatundi]

Say we trade Damp & Terry for Starbury. Then, we let Kidd, Starbury & Stack go. We're still at around $42MM in committed salaries for next season--under the cap, yes, perhaps enough to go after a single Max player, which I assume has to be a PG, unless we're planning to draft one and start him straight away. We end up with a team of Dirk, Josh, one Max player, Diop, and a bunch of scrubs. Wright, Green, Williams...Bass if he doesn't end up getting any decent money offers elsewhere, George...maybe add someone with the MLE. That could work I suppose. Problem is, Bosh, Lebron, etc. are all up NEXT year--so do we blow the cap room on someone like Jermaine ONeal, or ride it out for a year (a year where we REALLY stink) and hope that we end up with one of the top 3-4 players (keeping in mind there will be more teams angling for those guys than guys available).

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by bobatundi

Say we trade Damp & Terry for Starbury. Then, we let Kidd, Starbury & Stack go. We're still at around $42MM in committed salaries for next season--under the cap, yes, perhaps enough to go after a single Max player, which I assume has to be a PG, unless we're planning to draft one and start him straight away. We end up with a team of Dirk, Josh, one Max player, Diop, and a bunch of scrubs. Wright, Green, Williams...Bass if he doesn't end up getting any decent money offers elsewhere, George...maybe add someone with the MLE. That could work I suppose. Problem is, Bosh, Lebron, etc. are all up NEXT year--so do we blow the cap room on someone like Jermaine ONeal, or ride it out for a year (a year where we REALLY stink) and hope that we end up with one of the top 3-4 players (keeping in mind there will be more teams angling for those guys than guys available).

That is absolutely what I would do if it were up to me. And frankly it would be worse than that, because the only way they would even consider it is if the deal included Howard and Bass, and they're staying far away from Terry. (And even then, it still won't happen. They want LeBron.) That's how great teams are born; by being really really really bad, and landing the top draft picks and/or clearing space to get the top free agents. That's how the Spurs got both Robinson AND Duncan. You think there is a single Cavs fan in the world that thinks those horrible years they had wasn't worth getting LeBron? Imagine if we landed a top tier player in free agency and had a lottery pick (possibly more if we traded Dirk). That could be the beginning of a Lakers/Celtics type of dynasty.

It's too bad Dolan didn't keep Isiah for just one more year. I know Isiah would be dumb enough to do it.

[jthig32]

This thread is about possibly picking up Marbury if he's cut, not trading for him.

[bobatundi]

Some would argue this thread is about acquiring Marbury and that it's not necessary to start another thread to discuss a related idea.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by jthig32

This thread is about possibly picking up Marbury if he's cut, not trading for him.

Have the Knicks given any indication that they will do that, rather than just let him expire? I mean, other than not playing him? (I guess I probably should read the article)

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Have the Knicks given any indication that they will do that, rather than just let him expire? I mean, other than not playing him? (I guess I probably should read the article)

They've said that they won't, but peopel still speculate that they will. The article in the opening post said Cuban would only have interest if he was waived.

I mean I don't have a problem with trade speculation, just noting what the original topic was.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by bobatundi

Some would argue this thread is about acquiring Marbury and that it's not necessary to start another thread to discuss a related idea.

Yeah I"m not being a thread nazi. Just answering Spiral's question.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by jthig32

They've said that they won't, but peopel still speculate that they will. The article in the opening post said Cuban would only have interest if he was waived.

I mean I don't have a problem with trade speculation, just noting what the original topic was.

If that's the case, then yeah, I agree with everyone else. No Starbury. The wording on in the article was kind of vague though; "cut ties."