02-01-2009, 03:14 PM
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Josh Howard wants to stay "I Love this dallas team!"
Yep you heard it right. Got this from http://www.dallasbasketball.com
Josh: 'We Don't Need No Changes!'
Mavs' Howard Denies Trade Rumors, Says 'I Love This Dallas Team!'
By Mike Fisher -- DB.com
Amid trade-deadline speculation regarding his future with the Mavs, Josh Howard has for the first time publically stated his desire to remain in Dallas.
“We don’t need no changes right now,’’ J-Ho said Saturday after the Mavs’ 111-96 win in Miami. “I know people end up getting traded and I know I might end up going somewhere. But I’m looking forward to living and keep playing in Dallas. … I love this Dallas team.’’
The NBA TV crew asked Howard if he wanted to be dealt.
“No!’’ Howard said. “I like the team that we have!’’
Mavs owner Mark Cuban continues to reiterate Dallas’ desire to get the most out of Howard rather than deal him. Nevertheless, rumors continue. And DB.com has Mavs GM Donnie Nelson suggesting the club will try to do something impactful.
We’ve covered this story from a variety of angles. The offseason crap, of course. Howard’s return from injury. His early-game “shot-hunting.’’ His “Invasion Of The Body-Language Snatchers’’ aura. His value in our imagined blockbuster Josh-for-Shaq deal that would alter the face of the Mavs. Howard acknowledged in this visit with NBA TV that he has an awareness of all the talk – especially the rumors of him being dealt to Miami for Shawn Marion – but largely dismissed them.
“If you’d have heard the fans today – you’ve heard the Miami scenario for me coming down here (to the Heat) – the fans were going crazy,’’ Josh said, smiling widely. “But the situation in Dallas, (even) outside of basketball, the opportunities. … I enjoy it. … With the pieces we have. … so many people try to down what we do. In-house we stay positive and everything. … As long as I’m out there on that court with my teammates, good things happen. I love this Dallas team.’’
Well... thats nice to hear but still think we need a trade lol Maybe it will make his trade a bit more vaulable? who knows.
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02-01-2009, 04:39 PM
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Notice he said this Dallas Team. Nothing about the organization heads or coach? Rumor is that Howard and Carlisle are at odds, and also that many players have been questioning Carlisle on offense and defense. Seems like RC was not the right guy afterall, but I am glad he was smart enough to let Kidd have it and see what he can do.
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02-01-2009, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Silk Smoov
Notice he said this Dallas Team. Nothing about the organization heads or coach? Rumor is that Howard and Carlisle are at odds, and also that many players have been questioning Carlisle on offense and defense. Seems like RC was not the right guy afterall, but I am glad he was smart enough to let Kidd have it and see what he can do.
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If howard and RC are at odds...I think howard will be declared not the right guy.
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02-01-2009, 05:08 PM
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I'd like to see him stay and be that player we've seen and appreciated. There aren't many 3s in this league who can get you 20 and 8 with solid defense. Josh can. But he needs to be that guy for this team to be successful.
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02-01-2009, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Silk Smoov
Notice he said this Dallas Team. Nothing about the organization heads or coach? Rumor is that Howard and Carlisle are at odds, and also that many players have been questioning Carlisle on offense and defense. Seems like RC was not the right guy afterall, but I am glad he was smart enough to let Kidd have it and see what he can do.
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Talk about nit-picky. The team includes the head coach.
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02-01-2009, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Silk Smoov
Notice he said this Dallas Team. Nothing about the organization heads or coach? Rumor is that Howard and Carlisle are at odds, and also that many players have been questioning Carlisle on offense and defense. Seems like RC was not the right guy afterall, but I am glad he was smart enough to let Kidd have it and see what he can do.
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I don't understand. What does it mean that he only spoke about the team? I don't look much into that. I'm also not sure what makes it seem like RC isn't the guy for the job.
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02-01-2009, 05:27 PM
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Rumor has it....I GOTTA believe it then!!!!!!!!!
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02-01-2009, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
I don't understand.
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That's because you actually have a brain.
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Last edited by LonghornDub; 02-01-2009 at 05:28 PM.
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02-01-2009, 05:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silk Smoov
Notice he said this Dallas Team. Nothing about the organization heads or coach? Rumor is that Howard and Carlisle are at odds, and also that many players have been questioning Carlisle on offense and defense. Seems like RC was not the right guy afterall, but I am glad he was smart enough to let Kidd have it and see what he can do.
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Not to beat a dead horse, but this is just absurd. At some point you have to be willing to set your agendas aside if you want to be able to claim that your perceptions are even a reasonable approximation of reality.
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02-01-2009, 05:32 PM
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The simple question without a simple answer is:
Will Josh still be a Maverick after Feb 19th?
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02-01-2009, 05:48 PM
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This win gave me more hope than others simply because of Josh's play. I kept a close eye on him throughout the game and he seemed interested in the game, active on defense, offense... if only he can keep this up then I'll be happy with us keeping him. But he still has to maintain this level of play for a long stretch of games in order to regain my trust.....
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02-01-2009, 06:19 PM
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Rumor has it that Josh gets expert credit advice from someone on the board, hence the insider info.
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02-01-2009, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ddh33
I'd like to see him stay and be that player we've seen and appreciated. There aren't many 3s in this league who can get you 20 and 8 with solid defense. Josh can. But he needs to be that guy for this team to be successful.
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You're absolutely right. There would probably be no need to trade a Josh Howard if he lived up to his potential on a regular basis and didn't let any distractions get in his way. Yet, how likely is that?
One problem over the last 12 months has been his inconsistency which seemingly made a lot of people think that trading Josh even for a less capable but more consistent player would have to be considered a plus.
His body language and overall commitment to this team and its success has looked like a problem as well. It's a relief to hear him say that he's still emotionally attached to this team and wants to be a part of it. I wouldn't have been shocked if he had indicated some sort of discontent.
The question is: Could we honestly consider ourselves title contenders if we didn't make any changes to the team's core of Damp, Dirk, Josh, JET, and Kidd? And how could we realize a significant trade without sacrificing one of our top 5 players, e.g. by only trading Stack/Bass?
I can't help but think that we won't be able to achieve our goals if we don't get a trade done that makes a real change to our core.
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02-01-2009, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
If howard and RC are at odds...I think howard will be declared not the right guy.
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I agree.
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02-01-2009, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
Rumor has it that Josh gets expert credit advice from someone on the board, hence the insider info.
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I knew it would not take you long to go into your silly bit. Grow up lil man.
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02-01-2009, 07:23 PM
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Sounds like Josh is campaigning to stay in Dallas. Like he's really not expecting to just hoping. He's probably afraid his new team won't tolerate his b.s. like the Mavs have.
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02-01-2009, 07:31 PM
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This is the Carlisle to get the Mavs job speech:
Under Carlisle, things will be different. Carlisle has already said he is going to let this team run, and let Jason Kidd do his thing. With, Dirk, Howard, Bass, Terry, and Green running around and slashing to the basket, Kidd could have a great year. Not to mention, he's had a full off-season with a training camp/preseason to adapt to what his teammates do best.
Under Carlisle, Dirk will again become the focal point in an offense that will run and use motion to get its players shots. Don't forget about how much of an impact Jason Kidd can potentially have on Dirk's numbers too.
Rick Carlisle is not that way. He has come out and said that the Mavs will run this year, and will work on transition defense more than anything else leading up to the regular season. He said that he will implement a motion offense that can take advantage of the special skill sets that Kidd, Nowitzki, Terry, Howard, and Green have.
What actually Carlisle did once he got the job:
Several players estimate that Carlisle called 70 to 80 percent of the plays in the first three months of the season and Kidd took the rest. That ratio has been reversed the last two games.
Sounds familiar?
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02-01-2009, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Silk Smoov
Notice he said this Dallas Team. Nothing about the organization heads or coach? Rumor is that Howard and Carlisle are at odds, and also that many players have been questioning Carlisle on offense and defense. Seems like RC was not the right guy afterall, but I am glad he was smart enough to let Kidd have it and see what he can do.
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if by rumor you mean unsubstantiated thread crap that you've randomly spouted, then yes, i suppose you have a point.
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02-01-2009, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dalger
The question is: Could we honestly consider ourselves title contenders if we didn't make any changes to the team's core of Damp, Dirk, Josh, JET, and Kidd? And how could we realize a significant trade without sacrificing one of our top 5 players, e.g. by only trading Stack/Bass?
I can't help but think that we won't be able to achieve our goals if we don't get a trade done that makes a real change to our core.
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I don't think we can get where we want to go with the current group assembled. Everything and I mean everything has to be flowing right all together at the same time for us to get that.
Most of the core will remain if you do a deal. It ultimately comes to Josh and/or Kidd if a major change comes.
I think something will happen, it's just a matter of it's subtle or not.
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02-01-2009, 08:18 PM
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I too liked the way Josh played against Miami and especially that he contributed while only taking 13 shots. Thats the way he needs to play and he can stay. But for some reason him coming out and saying this has TRADE written all over it. Maybe its me, but well see
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02-01-2009, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
Rumor has it that Josh gets expert credit advice from someone on the board, hence the insider info.
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02-01-2009, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AxdemxO
But for some reason him coming out and saying this has TRADE written all over it. Maybe its me, but well see
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Players don't know about trade plans any more than anyone else.
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02-01-2009, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AxdemxO
I too liked the way Josh played against Miami and especially that he contributed while only taking 13 shots. Thats the way he needs to play and he can stay. But for some reason him coming out and saying this has TRADE written all over it. Maybe its me, but well see
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But it almost dimishes his value overall for me. I like it but if he is going to be a 13ppg 6 rebound guy, I'd rather have Marion.
Plus, in a recent Mavs Insider interview, Howard said his signature movie is a step-back jumper that he developed last season. Barf.
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02-01-2009, 10:42 PM
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“We don’t need no changes right now,’’ J-Ho said Saturday after the Mavs’ 111-96 win in Miami.
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JHo continues to be Mr. Eloquence.
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02-02-2009, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Silk Smoov
Notice he said this Dallas Team. Nothing about the organization heads or coach? Rumor is that Howard and Carlisle are at odds, and also that many players have been questioning Carlisle on offense and defense. Seems like RC was not the right guy afterall, but I am glad he was smart enough to let Kidd have it and see what he can do.
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laugh. another blow to silk's credibility.
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02-02-2009, 12:27 AM
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ummmmm..... so, trade him.
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02-02-2009, 12:55 AM
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Josh is pretty big does he have an issue with attacking the rim? His step back jumpers don't satisfy me at all. I wish he could shoot off the dribble with more consistency like Jet Terry. If Josh really loves this team I hope we get to see more effort and heart from him NOT in the first half but down the stretch in crunch time.
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